Posts by stuckinarut2

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Amazing new graph - publisher increase compared to country population increase rates

by jwfacts in

world population growth rate is 1.13%, whilst jehovah's witness average publishers grew by 1.8%.

watchtower growth is outpacing population growth, though at a dismal rate considering the 2 billion hours of preaching required for an increase of just 115,194. this is an aggregate number, and most growth is from developing nations in africa and south america.

what i was really interested in finding is how watchtower growth compares to the population growth in different countries.

stuckinarut2

Great info.

So much for "Jehovah speeding up the ingathering"....

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Wife is Awake

by freemindfade in

following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.

i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.

i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.

stuckinarut2

Wow FMF, the reasons that moved your wife are SO similar to my wife!

Yes, I am SURE there are many more waking up due to such issues.

As my wife used to say when she was trying to reconcile if it was still the truth "Perhaps this is Jehovah 'refining' or 'cleaning up' his people"?

Now she just says "this is proof that it is not Jehovah's organization!"

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

stuckinarut2

Didn't Jesus supposedly say "By their fruits you will recognise them"

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Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

by Spoletta in

my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

anyone else pick up on this?

stuckinarut2

This MAY be a reference to the proposal that the Judge and Legal team of the Australian Royal Commission made.

Namely, they strongly suggested that the organization should make provision for "qualified women" to sit in the investigative and supportive roles if a case of child or sexual abuse was to arise.

They said it was wholly inappropriate for three men to be the ones to hear such sensitive matters. They said that it would be far better for a woman to assist in such situations.

Of course, as Jackson said "there would be no room for Females to be appointed to a role of an elder or ms"

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Are there any doctrines which all Christian religions follow.

by jwfacts in

i cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.

are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.

stuckinarut2

How about the concept of "Guilt"?

All religions, especially Christian ones subscribe to Guilt and Sin as being an integral part of life, and one that requires divine interaction to solve or "forgive"

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All About The Words We Used

by dubstepped in

in the time since i've left the borg behind i've had a few things hit me as to how words were used.

i'm wondering if anyone else has some similar examples, but here are some things that have made me think:.

watchtower - my whole life i saw this as a thing of protection from outside evil forces, and then when i left someone pointed out "isn't that what they used to keep people in prison".

stuckinarut2

"fleshly" brother, as opposed to a "spiritual" brother....

You know, what a witness has to say to differentiate when talking of their literal "brother" (sibling)

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Wife is Awake

by freemindfade in

following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.

i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.

i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.

stuckinarut2

AWESOME news freemindfade!

In my case, I never thought this would actually happen you know.

But we need to give credit to our spouses and family members who have their own thinking abilities and reasoning skills... (after all, doesn't the bible encourage ones to use their "powers of reason to prove truth"!?

We just need to allow time, and never force things too quickly.

Sincere love to you and your wife from us!

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All About The Words We Used

by dubstepped in

in the time since i've left the borg behind i've had a few things hit me as to how words were used.

i'm wondering if anyone else has some similar examples, but here are some things that have made me think:.

watchtower - my whole life i saw this as a thing of protection from outside evil forces, and then when i left someone pointed out "isn't that what they used to keep people in prison".

stuckinarut2

"Spirituality" = "how much Witness activity one engages in...."

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Trey Bundy 13-minute interview at C.I.R. headquarters re: allegations of sex abuse among JWs. You will find this video quite "revealing"

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.facebook.com/thisisreveal/videos/1265278083563107/?utm_source=reveal+newsletters&utm_campaign=41ea55c5ef-the_weekly_reveal_01_10_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c38de7c444-41ea55c5ef-229964425.

january 5, 2017. reporter trey bundy discusses his reporting on allegations of sex abuse among jehovah’s witnesses.

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stuckinarut2

So if the Holy Spirit is supposedly directing the organization, why did it allow God's organization to have the spotlight shone on it??

Yep...for any Witnesses out there, perhaps the answer is that Jehovah is bringing to light the deeply ingrained wrong culture of "his" organization and its leaders??!!

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Has your name or reputation been maligned by the Witness gossip-mill?

by stuckinarut2 in

as we all know, witnesses routinely share in gossiping, slandering or maligning the name and reputation of those who are "spiritually weak" or ones who "fade" or "stop associating".. they feel it is ok to speak badly of such ones who "have left jehovah's organization".. of course, some of the worst perpetrators of this are elders and their wives, who insidiously plant negative stories in the minds of all they interact with in the congregation.

they may never have actual facts, but since when do facts matter to witnesses?

however through such conduct they manage to separate people from one another, or cause rifts amongst former friends.. this sort of conduct is plainly inappropriate.. but what scriptures could be used if the opportunity arose to confront such ones about the way they have behaved?.

stuckinarut2

As we all know, witnesses routinely share in gossiping, slandering or maligning the name and reputation of those who are "spiritually weak" or ones who "fade" or "stop associating".

They feel it is ok to speak badly of such ones who "have left Jehovah's organization".

Of course, some of the worst perpetrators of this are Elders and their wives, who insidiously plant negative stories in the minds of all they interact with in the congregation. They may never have actual facts, but since when do facts matter to witnesses?

However through such conduct they manage to separate people from one another, or cause rifts amongst former friends.

This sort of conduct is plainly inappropriate.

But what scriptures could be used if the opportunity arose to confront such ones about the way they have behaved?

New Living Translation James 3:5
In the same way, the tongue is a small thing that makes grand speeches. But a tiny spark can set a great forest on fire.

And

Aramaic Bible in Plain English Proverbs 26:17
He that meddles in a case that is not his is like he that takes a dog by its ears.

Feel free to add other scriptures that come to mind.