i've been following this forum for a couple of years now, but it's only just now that i've decided to register.
it's been quite a long and strenous process leaving the org, having been borned and raised in and spent so much time in.
i'm so gratefull there's the internet these days which helps new people find their way out of this and other religions.
WELCOME!
You have actually taken a strong and commendable step to stand up for what is right, and to decisively cut ties with a society that is not healthy.
Be proud of the strength this took!
You are amongst many like minded people who saw the need to no longer be passive supporters of the organization.
Much love to you!
quite possibly the most annoying and patronizing thing i've read in years.
comments of mine are in yellow.. .
she doesn't trust herself to make her own decisions and she's going to wait years even after she thinks she's ready.
The society is responsible for messing up the emotional state and in turn life choices of SO many thousands of young ones over the years!
The Guilt they are burdened with is phenomenal!
world population growth rate is 1.13%, whilst jehovah's witness average publishers grew by 1.8%.
watchtower growth is outpacing population growth, though at a dismal rate considering the 2 billion hours of preaching required for an increase of just 115,194. this is an aggregate number, and most growth is from developing nations in africa and south america.
what i was really interested in finding is how watchtower growth compares to the population growth in different countries.
Great info.
So much for "Jehovah speeding up the ingathering"....
following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.
i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.
i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.
Wow FMF, the reasons that moved your wife are SO similar to my wife!
Yes, I am SURE there are many more waking up due to such issues.
As my wife used to say when she was trying to reconcile if it was still the truth "Perhaps this is Jehovah 'refining' or 'cleaning up' his people"?
Now she just says "this is proof that it is not Jehovah's organization!"
ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.
if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.
however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.
Didn't Jesus supposedly say "By their fruits you will recognise them"
my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.
she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.
anyone else pick up on this?
This MAY be a reference to the proposal that the Judge and Legal team of the Australian Royal Commission made.
Namely, they strongly suggested that the organization should make provision for "qualified women" to sit in the investigative and supportive roles if a case of child or sexual abuse was to arise.
They said it was wholly inappropriate for three men to be the ones to hear such sensitive matters. They said that it would be far better for a woman to assist in such situations.
Of course, as Jackson said "there would be no room for Females to be appointed to a role of an elder or ms"
i cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.
are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.
How about the concept of "Guilt"?
All religions, especially Christian ones subscribe to Guilt and Sin as being an integral part of life, and one that requires divine interaction to solve or "forgive"
in the time since i've left the borg behind i've had a few things hit me as to how words were used.
i'm wondering if anyone else has some similar examples, but here are some things that have made me think:.
watchtower - my whole life i saw this as a thing of protection from outside evil forces, and then when i left someone pointed out "isn't that what they used to keep people in prison".
"fleshly" brother, as opposed to a "spiritual" brother....
You know, what a witness has to say to differentiate when talking of their literal "brother" (sibling)
following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.
i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.
i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.
AWESOME news freemindfade!
In my case, I never thought this would actually happen you know.
But we need to give credit to our spouses and family members who have their own thinking abilities and reasoning skills... (after all, doesn't the bible encourage ones to use their "powers of reason to prove truth"!?
We just need to allow time, and never force things too quickly.
Sincere love to you and your wife from us!
in the time since i've left the borg behind i've had a few things hit me as to how words were used.
i'm wondering if anyone else has some similar examples, but here are some things that have made me think:.
watchtower - my whole life i saw this as a thing of protection from outside evil forces, and then when i left someone pointed out "isn't that what they used to keep people in prison".
"Spirituality" = "how much Witness activity one engages in...."
