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stuckinarut2
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Morality Without Deity
by cofty inone of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.
it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.
christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.
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Need the perfect guide to be a good person? Then the "Good Book" is your answer!
by stuckinarut2 inhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eibrdbvkdhq.
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"come home Cardinal Pell" and face the legal system.... (This one is for you Governing Body)
by stuckinarut2 inthis is a great song by australian comedic musician tim minchin.
the words are so fitting for the gb too!
we know that gerrit losch refused to face the legal system to help with a case, and we know geoffrey jackson tried to dodge the arc....maybe this sort of song might help!.
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stuckinarut2
This is a great song by Australian comedic musician Tim Minchin.
The words are so fitting for the GB too! We know that Gerrit Losch refused to face the legal system to help with a case, and we know Geoffrey Jackson tried to dodge the ARC....maybe this sort of song might help!
Enjoy! (Wait for the last line! It's great!)
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Beware of Emojis! A worksheet from jw.org to help you!
by stuckinarut2 inwe all know just hoe dangerous emojis are right??
well, thankfully, "jehovah's organization" have lovingly provided a step by step worksheet to help!.
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/worksheets/friendly-or-flirtatious/.
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stuckinarut2
Well said tiki! Well said indeed!
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Eagerly anticipating the death of billions!
by stuckinarut2 insurely someone who eagerly looks forward to the death of billions of people (including babies and children) is not emotionally healthy?.
yet, that is the key belief "happily" anticipated by witnesses.... food for thought?.
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stuckinarut2
Bumped for a new "generation" of forum members...
It still amazes me that witnesses can somehow do the mental gymnastics to let themselves actually happily look forward to seeing BILLIONS of people killed!
Also, seriously, why do they get so upset when some sort of tragedy strikes that kills people? After all, those that die get a resurrection right? So it is actually a GOOD thing if people die in some disaster according to witness ideas??
The sick twisted mindset that allows witnesses to think it is OK for mass genocide is truly disturbing!
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Morality Without Deity
by cofty inone of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.
it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.
christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.
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stuckinarut2
Great opening post!
Yes, just because one doesn't subscribe to a "faith" or "divine deity" does not mean that one becomes evil, or "immoral".
I saw a great quote once (sorry cant remember who said it) "I don't believe in a loving divine being BECAUSE I have read the bible"
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If "the Truth" is the truth, why are witnesses so scared of research?
by stuckinarut2 init is an often asked question i know, but it perplexes me.. if witnesses are so convinced that they have "the truth", why is the act of researching information from external sources so taboo?
didn't the bible itself tell people to "use their powers of reason" and also praised ones like the boreans for researching things they were told??.
seriously, if there is no doubt about the organization being "god's channel" on earth, and it alone having the "truth", surely researching would only enhance such 'facts'?.
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Pseudo history in Watchtower today 😂
by Gorbatchov ingorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.
just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.
the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.
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I spoke to 2 Jobos on a cart but I refused to discuss religion
by punkofnice ini was in a good mood yesterday (makes a bloody change, i hear you say).
i was meeting an old buddy for a meal.
he was never a jobo.
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stuckinarut2
Nice one punk!
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Jehovah sure loves foreskins!
by rebel8 inan atheist (never jw) friend of mine is an rv for a jw who he is trying to deprogram.
he started this totally on his own and just telling me about it.
it's quite amusing what he comes up with.. point 1: why the s & m stuff with foreskins?
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stuckinarut2
Oh Schnell! That clip was fantastic!
