even thinking about born-ins here.
at what stage of your 'bible teaching' were you taught about the practice of disfellowshipping?.
reading john cedars book and the section about when the more crazy shit gets introduced to you is very telling.
Well said Joe and steve2!
Yes, the org has masterfully and manipulatively made it seem that only "WICKED SINNERS" would ever require DFing.
The facts are that many, if not most leave because they simply wake up to the TRUTH about the society.
They don't become evil sinners at all
just want to say hello.. trying to master my new tablet given to me by my grandson.. yeah, i am bragging.. lol.. sylvia.
Welcome back!
being in "the truth" forever, i keep (frustratingly) finding myself humming kingdom songs unintentionally.
it frustrates me when i find myself doing it!.
so today i got this song in my head, and couldn't get it unstuck, so i decided to write alternate lyrics to it... when i get that tune in my head now, i'll have words that work!
Bumped for a new "overlapping generation" of forum members!
i thought this was a good video showing how the logic is faulty from the gb.
just bare with lett for a minute.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1otsrp0bp4.
Great choice of song in the background!
11 march 2017. dear governing body of jehovah's witnesses,.
could you please introduce the phrase "spiritual generation" to replace the phrase "overlapping generation".
it would save us all a lot of confusion.. an online search of your publications dating back to 2000 showed that this term has never been used.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q="spiritual+generation"&p=par.
I saw a sister post apicture on Instagram proudly showing "four generations" of family "in the truth" (grandparents, children, great grandchildren....)
I was SO tempted to add a comment : "dont you mean ONE OVERLAPPING generation?"
when the arc made their recommendations to the society last year i genuinely thought we'd see some real changes.
oh sure, i expected a lot of feet dragging, double talk, and general nonsense - but at the end of the day i was certain the society would do what they legally had to and then run around claiming:.
) these new policies and procedures aren't really new we've always done them.
Yes, very sad.
As much as I loathe the organisation, I didn't think they would be so stupid and conduct themselves in such an antagonistic and evasive manner.
However the level of contempt they have shown is proof that they truely need to be brought to task.
I sincerely hope that they face tangible, punitive punishment!
so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).
i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.
but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.
Crazyguy, you asked if anyone has a copy of the book?
Annoyingly, the hall we used to attend threw out all the old books! I was so amazed that they would try and throw away such "theocratic history". I kept the book and read it cover to cover before returning it.
To think that anyone thought that this was "gods channel" is simply mind blowing!
no doubt we have all heard that well used "illustration" in public talks etc over the years:.
"if you were handed a glass of water that looked pure, but were told it has just a tiny drop of poison in it, would you drink it?".
the society has used that illustration at length to say we should avoid all influences of every part of the world.. but, as we know, the society has had a track record of errors, false ideas and doctrines.
The way that the society has handled the Australian Royal Commission is proof of the "poison in the water"!
It doesn't matter WHAT they teach or claim about anything, if they are acting so disgracefully during these proceedings!!
Poison indeed. "Offspring of vipers"
someone suggested i would address a letter not only to mr. angus stewart, but also to the royal commission as well.
it merges the two subjects on the same letter (inactive status and shunning; two witness rule), and adds some things more that what i said to mr. stewart.
it's a bit long, please bear with me.. --------------------------------------- .
Well written.
Perhaps add information about the videos shown during the 2016 convention series. The one about "Kevin" the inactive one, and the one about parents shunning their daughter's phone call?
once again, the arc has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.. the "brothers" tried to state that it was the choice of the indiviual who steps away from the organization to shun them!
they actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!
then they tried to say that those who fade are not shunned!.
If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, then they are not "the truth".....
