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  2017 Convention Video Remember The Wife Of Lot

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0qpoelk2r4.

  the dad in this is a total douche.

  i dont know if the videos have become more judgemental and culty in the year since i left - or maybe im just noticing it more?.

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  Oh, and it seems that the society has forgotten to make the rest of the movies in the "Lot" series!?

  You know, the one about how he offers his two virgin daughters to be pack raped by a mob of men outside their building.

  Or that part about how after his wife gets killed (or can I say 'a-salted') , he has incestuous sexual relations with both of his girls and fathers children with them.

  Oh and how after all of that, he is held up as a model of faith - a friend of God, and one who should be respected.....

  Yep, I don't seem to be able to find those videos......
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  2017 Convention Video Remember The Wife Of Lot

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0qpoelk2r4.

  the dad in this is a total douche.

  i dont know if the videos have become more judgemental and culty in the year since i left - or maybe im just noticing it more?.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAuVrdVkXc8
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  compensation for the abused.

  by zeb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  'jehovah's witness (1 per cent) did not attend but will be involved in round two of negotiations — one-on-one meetings with the minister's department.

  on the abuse compensation scheme reported on the abc.

  so they will go into the ministers office with their slickest new lawyers and hope to bullshit the minsters staff.

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  Yes dozy, great point!
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  Just because something is old, does not mean it is "Special" or "Sacred" or "Valuable"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a thought occurred to me that simply because something is old does not make it valuable or worthy of sacred reverence.. the bible is held up as sacred just because it is "old" and apparently preserved.. but, that does not make sense.

  if in thousands of years someone finds a notebook of my scribbles or sketches that i threw away, that doesn't elevate them to "valuable status" simply because they survived.

  they were thrown away because they were worthless.. or if an archaeologist finds an ancient broken bit of pottery that was used for garbage disposal, it doesn't change its status from what it once was - a garbage bin.. i guess what i am trying to ask is, why is it that we as humans give value to writings just because they are old?.

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  Great replies!
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  Just because something is old, does not mean it is "Special" or "Sacred" or "Valuable"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a thought occurred to me that simply because something is old does not make it valuable or worthy of sacred reverence.. the bible is held up as sacred just because it is "old" and apparently preserved.. but, that does not make sense.

  if in thousands of years someone finds a notebook of my scribbles or sketches that i threw away, that doesn't elevate them to "valuable status" simply because they survived.

  they were thrown away because they were worthless.. or if an archaeologist finds an ancient broken bit of pottery that was used for garbage disposal, it doesn't change its status from what it once was - a garbage bin.. i guess what i am trying to ask is, why is it that we as humans give value to writings just because they are old?.

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  A thought occurred to me that simply because something is old does not make it valuable or worthy of sacred reverence.

  The bible is held up as sacred just because it is "old" and apparently preserved.

  But, that does not make sense. If in thousands of years someone finds a notebook of my scribbles or sketches that I threw away, that doesn't elevate them to "valuable status" simply because they survived. They were thrown away because they were worthless.

  Or if an archaeologist finds an ancient broken bit of pottery that was used for garbage disposal, it doesn't change its status from what it once was - a garbage bin.

  I guess what I am trying to ask is, why is it that we as humans give value to writings just because they are old?
  
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  Please tell me: what is a relationship with the "person" Jehovah like?

  by Maryo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone out there know of any jws that have talked about what their personal relationship with jehovah was like?

  for example, hearing his voice, a certain feeling?

  an intellectual understanding?

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  A one-way conversation is not healthy.

  If we spoke with a "friend" who never spoke back, we would call that an unbalanced relationship....
  
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  Another manipulation of scripture in Baptism talk at the 2017 RC

  by NikL in

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  2. bible

  i've been looking over the talk outlines for the 201t convention and i came across this in the baptism talk.

  go on the offensive against paralyzing fear (7 min.

  )[read 1 peter 3:6, and focus on the expression “continue doing goodand do not give in to fear”].

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  How have they made that stretch like that? Amazing...
  
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  Please tell me: what is a relationship with the "person" Jehovah like?

  by Maryo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone out there know of any jws that have talked about what their personal relationship with jehovah was like?

  for example, hearing his voice, a certain feeling?

  an intellectual understanding?

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  Usually speaking with imaginary people results in people requiring psychological treatment in a facility....
  
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  Southern California USA Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses On High Alert

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers and rank & file are stressed out over an ex-jw (kevin) who has visited nearly 20 congregations (orange county) and has high-jacked the opening prayers and done some effective witnessing before he is escorted to the back door.

  and everything is caught on video!.

  kevin is also visiting numerous jw cart locations from the los angeles area to orange county and giving a most effective wiitness at each location and they're all on video.

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  Activity like this just reinforces the stereotype that all who leave "the truth" are "mentally diseased"

  It enhances their persecution complexes too.
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  Just ordered the book Crisis of Conscience

  by CitizenofEarth in

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  2. bible

  hello there.. i just ordered the book coc, and will son recieve it.

  does anyone have anything you want to mention about the book - perhaps some things you stumbled upon that might help me understand something more?

  or maybe you have any thoughts you want to share regarding the book?

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  You will be impressed with his dignity and poise. Also his well presented points.

  My recommendation is take good care of the book! It is rare....

  Enjoy!