Excellent comments!
Yes, the ONLY proof they have is their own testimony. And the claim that they have "love amongst themselves"...
EVERY religious group claims the very same thing though!
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Where is the proof?
by stuckinarut2 inwe all know that the governing body claim to be "god's representatives" and the "faithful and discreet slave" that dispenses spiritual food..... but where is the proof?.
according to the bible (if we just for a moment take it as a reliable source), all of god's representatives in the past furnished proof of their appointment - not just self referential claims or statements.. for instance, moses and aaron performed miracles before pharaoh (such as the snake staffs.).
other prophets performed signs and miracles such as making the sun stand still, healing sick people, making walls fall down, etc etc.... even jesus performed miracles as proof of his divine appointment!.
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When do you think the 7 clowns will add more members to the exclusive GB club ?
by Chook inwill they draw a new name out of a hat or do a kiss test i don't know..
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I doubt they will bring in too many more...
If they do, there is more chance of someone disagreeing with their present directions....and we know they just will not allow that!
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Some Good News About Me (Although Anthony Morris Will Be Furious)
by pale.emperor injust wanted to share with you some good news i'm really excited about.
i have been accepted for university to study psychology and counseling.
my goal is to become a counselor and, in time, to specialize on treating those who have left high control relationships/groups like we all did.. it'll take a few years before im qualified but studying in university has been a dream of mine since i was 12, which was systematically dashed to pieces by watchtower.. .
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AWESOME news mate!
Well done!
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Russian Ban upheld - JWs lose appeal
by OrphanCrow inthe supreme court of russia has rejected the jehovah's witnesses' appeal.. https://jw-russia.org/news/17071719-195.html.
july 17, 2017 the supreme court of russia has missed the last chance to restore law and justice for the 175,000 russian citizens professing the religion of jehovah's witnesses.
it took less than an hour of the meeting a panel of three supreme court judges, to leave unchanged the decision taken earlier by the judge yuri ivanenko, the liquidation and ban any and all registered organizations of the religion.since there is no more effective domestic remedies, the believers will appeal to the european court of human rights and other international organizations.. *note: as reported by the jworg source, jw-russia.org.
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Is Jehovah asleep??
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Where is the proof?
by stuckinarut2 inwe all know that the governing body claim to be "god's representatives" and the "faithful and discreet slave" that dispenses spiritual food..... but where is the proof?.
according to the bible (if we just for a moment take it as a reliable source), all of god's representatives in the past furnished proof of their appointment - not just self referential claims or statements.. for instance, moses and aaron performed miracles before pharaoh (such as the snake staffs.).
other prophets performed signs and miracles such as making the sun stand still, healing sick people, making walls fall down, etc etc.... even jesus performed miracles as proof of his divine appointment!.
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We all know that the Governing Body claim to be "God's representatives" and the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" that dispenses spiritual food....
But where is the proof?
According to the Bible (if we just for a moment take it as a reliable source), all of God's representatives in the past furnished proof of their appointment - not just self referential claims or statements.
For instance, Moses and Aaron performed miracles before Pharaoh (such as the snake staffs.)
Other prophets performed signs and miracles such as making the sun stand still, healing sick people, making walls fall down, etc etc...
Even JESUS performed miracles as proof of his divine appointment!
But what have the GB done? What can they point to as PROOF CONCLUSIVE that they have been appointed by the Almighty to tell us all what to do?
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Episode 6 - Life Gets Dark As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses - Is Live Now
by dubstepped inepisode 6 of this jw life is now live.
it is a brutally honest, at times dark, look into what it was like behind the scenes in our lives.
people don't talk openly about ugly parts of their lives and it leads to other people feeling alone when theirs gets ugly.
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Thanks buddy!
Looking forward to it!
Oh and I found you on Instagram too! Great to follow you there...
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Has anybody experienced a judicial committee in a private venue?
by Chook ini think getting them to agree to a private place would give you an edge (even if the egde of their sword closer to home).
if i'm ever hauled before their kangaroo court i will only go on one of three conditions .1 non jw venue .2 with legal representation .
3 the recording of proceedings.
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When I was being harassed by the elders, I politely reminded them to "respct boundaries, or I may be forced to avail myself of the legal means at my disposal"
That was a polite way of threatening action if they maligned my name.
It didn't work. While they never publicly said anything from the platform and never took "judicial action", the elders SURE DID run around slandering my name and character to EVERY member of the local congregation as well as most within the surrounding circuits.
Im treated as a DF person even though they never took the action.
I reckon they feel quite proud of themselves really.
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My non-belief actually make me a more moral person!
by stuckinarut2 inno doubt we have all heard the statement from witnesses and christians in general that those who leave the faith only do so because they want to sin, or they feel guilty or whatever.... the reality is, i reckon we are all more "moral" now that we have left!.
many of us contribute to humanitarian efforts, community groups, welfare groups, etc.. many of us actually do something tangible to assist people.. we don't look with critical eyes on them or their lives.. and most importantly, we do not joyfully await the mass genocide of men, women, children and babies by a petty, jealous, and tyrannical god!.
thoughts?.
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No doubt we have all heard the statement from Witnesses and Christians in general that those who leave the faith only do so because they want to sin, or they feel guilty or whatever...
The reality is, I reckon we are all MORE "Moral" now that we have left!
Many of us contribute to humanitarian efforts, community groups, welfare groups, etc.
Many of us actually DO SOMETHING tangible to assist people.
We don't look with critical eyes on them or their lives.
And most importantly, we DO NOT JOYFULLY await the mass genocide of men, women, children and babies by a petty, jealous, and tyrannical God!
Thoughts?
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Starting To Wake Up
by Searching ini suppose after lurking around for a few weeks i thought i might share my own personal story, as i think it would probably be a very freeing experience for me right now.
to start off, at 23 years old i'm actually a third-generation jw, my grandparents were baptized (my grandfather is actually an elder) when my mother was only a toddler, she was raised as a witness, then of course, married a witness and thus myself and my two brothers were born-in's.
growing up my mother was always very careful about what she taught me, all the good things for sure, about how we would live in a paradise earth and i could pet all the animals that i wanted and not worry about growing old, and she'd ask me who in the bible i'd love to see and talk with - my grandparents however, were a different story and the cause of i think, most of my childhood trauma.. they really drilled home the fact that we were the only people who were going to be saved, we were the only people that were going to survive and that everyone else was going to die horribly - that i shouldn't try to make that many friends in school because they would never be "real" friends unless they were fellow jw's and they would die anyway.
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WELCOME to your REAL LIFE!
It is great to have you here with us!
As you let go of the FOG (fear obligation guilt) of the society, you will find that life truly becomes enjoyable.
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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe
by Diogenesister inthere was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.
i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.
this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.
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The doctrines and teachings are irrelevant to the average witness.
They simply have to do whatever the society tells them that week via the WT or mid week publications.
It is kind of like: "Dont let facts get in the way of your obediance".
Also, "Dont think too much"