"no honey, daddy doesn't like this book.
do you have a nice book we can read?.
as far as i know my wife and i agree this book would be off-limits.
The difference with "fairy tales" and "biblical accounts" is that biblical accounts are held up as REAL factual historical accounts, while "fairy tale stories" are just accepted as "make believe".
No one is permitted to say that the biblical accounts are just made up...
according to news sources in luanda, angola (read it here, although it's in portuguese language), a regional convention of the jw's taking place this weekend at the outskirts of capital luanda was targeted yesterday, friday, by what may be described as a 'terrorist attack'.. more than 400 attendees (mostly female) passed out in rapid succession in the vicinity of a toilet at the convention place.
reportedly, toxic gas devices were planted there by 3 young members of unita, the main political party that opposed mpla, the dominant regime party in angola since its independence in 1975.
43 people were rushed to the hospital and a few remain there, under medical surveillance.
This will be the lead story on jaydubdotorg in the news section now. Followed by updates on the situation in Russia...
As sad as it is, The GB will view it as another welcome distraction from the negative press happening worldwide with issues like the Australian Royal Commission and the child abuse cases etc....
we are pleased to make available the outlines for your meeting with the regular pioneers, special pioneers, and field missionaries that will be held in conjunction with one of the circuit assembliesduring the 2018 service year.
please note that you will now be allowed the flexibility todetermine with which circuit assembly the meeting will be held.
your primary consideration shouldbe what is in the best interests of the majority of the pioneers, not what is most convenient for you.there are many factors to be considered, such as weather, travel distance, accommodations, and soforth.
OH WOW!!
That outline ttdtt posted (thanks for doing so by the way)
That is blatant propaganda and manipulation! Every section can be so easily torn apart and debunked! It is full of leading assumptions, manipulative reasonings, distracting thoughts and a direction to remain willfully ignorant, along with outright scare tactics.
If this is the level of stuff they are now producing, and witnesses can not see it for what it is, then those witnesses deserve to be held captive....
as ridiculous as the bunker video was, a few things popped into my consciousness as i was riding the train today.
firstly, why did they go to all the expense and effort to not only create a bunker, but to furnish it like a living room complete with coffee table, armchair, shelves etc?
i mean, a bunker should be a bunker... boxes of tinned food, tools, medical supplies, emergency gear etc.
The video ended with the riot police standing in front of them.
The next time we saw them all was in "the new paradise earth", looking exactly the same age as they did in the basement.
This obviously was meant to imply that they were all resurrected back to life.
Therefore implying that they all were killed when they were taken captive.
hey guys,.
i've been trying hard to locate a comment that was posted no longer than a few weeks ago (if that) by a poster providing a challenge for witnesses to find one scripture that states that we are still saved/have hope if we are outside of this "new covenant" that wt claims is for the 144,000 only.
the thread was to do with ways we can wake up a loved one and this particular poster (i can't remember who) gave a step-by-step guide to helping witnesses waking up using their own bible and doctrine.
If you commented on that thread at the time, go to the page off your account that shows "comments posted" , and see if you can narrow it down.
Hope that helps?
i hope bethel lurkers at warwick listen to the rational viewpoint of this australian woman in the recording below.
she virtually pleads with an australian branch member as to the reasons why shunning is inhumane and how unfair it is that individuals are being held captive within the watchtower organisation.
they can't simply leave officially without the threat of being shunned by friends and family members.. typically, the branch member responds in a robotic like manner, sticking rigidly to watchtower policy.. https://youtu.be/sc_t60ax5k8.
One thing that did stand out, was the smugness and arrogance of the pious brother who took the call!
The self-righteousness was dripping off his smooth words....
Anyone know who it was?
He said he was once "a school teacher" in the call. Anyone from Aust recognise the voice?
"no honey, daddy doesn't like this book.
do you have a nice book we can read?.
as far as i know my wife and i agree this book would be off-limits.
Perhaps when reading those stories, ask children the question that the society always encouraged us to do when reading the bible: "what does this account teach us about Jehovah?"
By doing that, we can help children to see that Jehovah loves violence, rape, murder, wars, killing and burning animals, slavery etc.....
Not the sort of person I deem to be a "good associate"!
just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.
will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?
if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?
Oh I love this thread topic!
Great comments from everyone.
So on the topic of musical instruments? If stringed instruments are made, will they use animal products to make the strings? (Catgut) Does that mean we will kill animals for our use??
On the topic of waste treatment, I can tell you that after working at Bethel and seeing the infrastructure required to treat the waste from just the 400 people at the Australia bethel, there is a lot involved!
Ah, unless of course, all these issues will be magically taken care of by a giant sky daddy.....
i know we have all talked about this topic before, but for some new ones on the forum, or to refresh ourselves, i wanted to start this thread.. the society likes to go on about the sacredness of blood, and how it should not be transfused etc.. they liken it to a symbol of life itself.
something that should be respected and therefore not transfused.. but, what is more important: real life, or a symbol of life?.
an illustration came to mind.. if we give a bunch of flowers to a loved one as a symbol of our love for them, are those flowers more important than the love itself?
Great replies!!
Keep them coming
while visiting a still in friend last week we had an interesting discussion on narcissism.
he made a very interesting comment that got me thinking about the above.
we were discussing the nature of celebrity and fame and he mentioned that he would find it very difficult to cope with constant adulation and praise.
Sorry Venus, but what you propose goes against the content of the bible itself and its claims to be God's channel of communication.
Also, Christian faiths maintain that the bible is the textbook of god.
So by ignoring the messages of the bible, and its description of God, then we are left to conclude that the bible is purely the fallible word of man?
