i learned today that a "brother" from my former congregation has been arrested.. the rumor mill was in overdrive (you know how the jws are), my ex-wife and a pimo member filed me in just an hour ago.
both gave 95% the exact details so i take it as legit.... when i used to do sound desk there was a brother in his late 40s/early 50s who for some reason always had a tan and always sat at the back of the hall.
he was a loner, i used to feel sorry for him so would make small talk while i was setting up the sound desk and he was sitting there.
And there were two cases in the congregation we last attended as well. The elder body didn't report either.
In one case it was one elder who went contrary to the rest of the body and made the perp report himself by driving him to the police station! That elder was viewed as eccentric and mocked by the other elders.
In the other case, the family reported the crime to the police, and were harassed by the elders and belittled for doing so!
with so many negative things occupying our minds as ones who have escaped the society, we need to focus on positive and upbuilding things.. this clip is wonderful.
find their other stuff at www.theliberators.org .
contrary to all we were told as witnesses, most people in this world are truly lovely, sincere people.
You are welcome ToesUp!
It is indeed heartwarming!
i believe the gb's takeover of the fds was an illegal coup - not illegal relative to the laws of land, but illegal according to jw "laws" or doctrine.. according to jw doctrine, the fds is god's channel of communication between heaven and earth.
before the coup, the fds was defined to be all the anointed on earth, and the gb was part of that group and merely the spokesman for the group - individual gb members having no more authority than non-gb members of the fds.. however, a few years ago, the gb, independently of the other members of the fds, decided that it alone was the fds.
that, to me, was an illegal overthrow of the body (fds); it was a coup.. suppose the u.s. president decided that he has all power, and that he removed the powers of the u.s. congress.
Great thread. Interesting obvservations and thoughts!
i learned today that a "brother" from my former congregation has been arrested.. the rumor mill was in overdrive (you know how the jws are), my ex-wife and a pimo member filed me in just an hour ago.
both gave 95% the exact details so i take it as legit.... when i used to do sound desk there was a brother in his late 40s/early 50s who for some reason always had a tan and always sat at the back of the hall.
he was a loner, i used to feel sorry for him so would make small talk while i was setting up the sound desk and he was sitting there.
So, has anyone reported this to the police?
PE, maybe you could encourage your wife to report it. This may be a way to help her see the inaction of the elders. Make her see her 'community responsibility' to simply report what she has heard, and let the police do the investigating. It may not be true, or there may be some more to the story...but either way, it is the job of the police to investigate these tings...NOT some group of internal elders.
Sorry...EDIT: I see you wrote that he was arrested. OK. sorry... Well, that is good to see
a growing discourse on this forum has been around what "the end" means.
as jws, many here spent varying proportions of our lives waiting for the end when an unsettling realization was that the end that approaches is more likely to be from old age than the world's end.
through the centuries, group after group, has claimed it has "inside" information on the end of the world, drawing in the desperate-for-comfort like moths to flames.
Great thread Steve2
You asked what the org will be like in 2027?
Well, if we all remember just how QUICKLY the "modern" org was transformed!? Here on this very forum, only 4 years back, we all enjoyed doubting the rebranding of the Watchtower logo with jw.org.
When the directive to put those jw.org. signs on every kingdom hall was issued, many here laughed at the concept.
Only 5 years back, we all had no idea of the monster that the actual site would become. We all had no idea about the Caleb and Sophia cartoon propaganda cartoons, or the other weird stuff.
So, what will the society be like in 2027?? Who knows?? It will depend on the whim of the GB members at the time. And those GB will be made up of new men...as the old ones will be mostly dead by then I would say...
Watch this space...
it was the paragraph talking about people who don't want to be j.w's being executed, and it being an act of compassion from jehovah towards his witnesses..
True narcissistic behaviour by the GB in writing such stuff!
Well, after all, are they not just imitating the God of the bible? A true bully and narcissist if ever there was one!
"Worship me or I'll kill you!"
with so many negative things occupying our minds as ones who have escaped the society, we need to focus on positive and upbuilding things.. this clip is wonderful.
find their other stuff at www.theliberators.org .
contrary to all we were told as witnesses, most people in this world are truly lovely, sincere people.
With so many negative things occupying our minds as ones who have escaped the society, we need to focus on positive and upbuilding things.
This clip is wonderful. Find their other stuff at www.theliberators.org
Contrary to all we were told as witnesses, most people in this world are truly lovely, sincere people. Each has value and a story to share. Each person has true kindness within them.
Enjoy.
it was the paragraph talking about people who don't want to be j.w's being executed, and it being an act of compassion from jehovah towards his witnesses..
Can you post a link of the paragraph?
It sounds very disturbing indeed.
ok...so i am on a bit of a temper tantrum rant here...but if anyone has (endured) watched this month's broadcast, you will know what i mean!.
i have only watched 20 mins so far, and the hypocrisy is mind blowing.
they dare to go on about how thoroughly they research the material produced, so that errors are prevented etc.. for instance, the actually say how they ensure that a scientist is not misquoted, or that an "evolutionist" is not inaccurately quoted to make it seem like his comments are different to his intentions.
Good point Punk! What would Angus Stewart and the amazing ARC team say indeed!
The guidelines that the ARC handed down have been simply mocked and ignored by the GB. Such arrogance and conceit
let the reader use discernment:.
i was disfellowshipped in june of last year.
while i've been awake for nearly a year, i still often feel groggy.
It sounds like it will only play into the cliched view that the GB portrays of all who leave "the truth". They become "bitter and lost"
The intentions are no doubt sincere, but it probably won't even make an impact on the society...
