That sounds so morbid!
HOW is that meant to be a happy song of praise?
And watching the screen for the lyrics? What the hell has this religion become?
That sounds so morbid!
HOW is that meant to be a happy song of praise?
And watching the screen for the lyrics? What the hell has this religion become?
jehovah's witnesses insist that jephthah did not sacrifice his daughter to jehovah.
this is important to them because, rarther than jephthah just being a random bad person, jehovah was very much in on the deal.
after all, he made the promise to jehovah that he would "offer up as a burnt offering" on his return the first thing to come out of his house if jehovah would give the ammonites into his hands in battle, and since they were this makes jehovah complicit.. the isrealites had been getting a good thrashing of late, and the gilead elders (oh boy) had come out to ask jephthah, the rejected son of a prostitute (wouldn't you know it) and renown soldier, if he would lead the isrealites into battle for them.. this is when jephthah makes the deal with jehobo, and it all centres on the word for "burnt offering", which is given as "olah".
Yes! Jehovah supposedly hated the surrounding nations acts of child sacrifice etc...
So, when Jeptha made that promise, Jehovah should have unequivocally stated "NO!, for that is something detestable to me!"
Funny how there is no of record of that!
today the local newspaper published my first article.
about local politics.
a new stage in our fading proces.. g..
Well done!
faithful and discreet slave parable.
matthew 24:45-47 "who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.
By the very definition of the word "discreet", it simply CAN NOT apply to the group of 7 power hungry, prominence seeking, authoritarian control freaks!
i've been to the kingdom ministry school (for elders) recently and can report that it is mostly the usual mix of cliches and platitudes.
several letters where basically just read through one line at a time.
one point early on though almost made me laugh out loud.
ttdtt!! Love it!
Yes, you have become everything the Society said!
warning - vent ahead....... so, my father (still very much in jw but who has at least had the decency to still keep in contact with me and hubby and to show interest in why we aren't attending and respect where we are at) is in intensive care at a local hospital and is intubated and sedated with some serious health issues.
i'm next of kin so i get all the phone calls from the hospital.. so, the rest of the "family" has cut me off because we are inactive and because the ever-active jw gossip grapevine has rumoured with a sibilant slithy hissy voice: "apossstassssy" is the cause of our inactivity.. whatever.. but now i've had to contact said "family" with the news about my father and what is going on....... so, dad's sisters answer my calls and manage to act and conduct themselves with a degree of decorum.. my sister on the other hand - well, she doesn't deign to answer my calls and texts for most of the day.
i push the issue tonight and insist on speaking to her when my brother-in-law answers the call.
And, the objections unstuck's sister made were entirely innacurate too!
She has grossly got the timing of matters wrong, and accused her father of being in a drugged stupor. All of which is just not correct!
warning - vent ahead....... so, my father (still very much in jw but who has at least had the decency to still keep in contact with me and hubby and to show interest in why we aren't attending and respect where we are at) is in intensive care at a local hospital and is intubated and sedated with some serious health issues.
i'm next of kin so i get all the phone calls from the hospital.. so, the rest of the "family" has cut me off because we are inactive and because the ever-active jw gossip grapevine has rumoured with a sibilant slithy hissy voice: "apossstassssy" is the cause of our inactivity.. whatever.. but now i've had to contact said "family" with the news about my father and what is going on....... so, dad's sisters answer my calls and manage to act and conduct themselves with a degree of decorum.. my sister on the other hand - well, she doesn't deign to answer my calls and texts for most of the day.
i push the issue tonight and insist on speaking to her when my brother-in-law answers the call.
Yes!
Simply preposterous!
The sister has never once put her hand in her pocket to help financially. Never once visited her father when was on his death bed.
Never phoned her sister to discuss matters. Never even answered the multiple calls made to her.
Not shown any interest in her father's care...and now wants to object to the outstanding steps taken and care procedures implemented by her sister!
Let me tell you all, Unstuck has been modest in the reciting of all she has been doing (while also holding down a 70 hour a week full time job mind you). This for a man who has not been a great father over the years. However he is very appreciative of all that is now being done for him.
i was inspired by @lastmanstanding to check out the jan 15 1892 watchtower and came across this little gem from the same article covering russell's trip to europe.
i think this will be particularly interesting to the aussies here considering our ongoing debate about the treatment of immigrants and refugees.
the people are generally intelligent, industrious, busy and comfortably clothed and fed—far beyond our previous suppo sitions.
Good thread !
Yes, it is simply mind blowing to see that we are far more advanced as humans nowadays, and yet the Society would have us believe things are getting worse each year prior to the big day of Armageddon!
Why do we rightly find such racist outbursts as offensive now? If the idea is that the world is more degraded, then our views should be getting worse right?
the jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..
That is EXACTLY the stuff my father said to me when I showed him the Aust Royal Commission findings!
Well said phoebe!