As with all religions, it comes down to FOG
Fear
Obligation
Guilt
i understand that cults and religious groups will always exist.
but why do jehovah’s witnesses continue as a religion that people will join?.
As with all religions, it comes down to FOG
Fear
Obligation
Guilt
so as we all know, the australian royal commission has it on record that a "child safegaurding policy" document was produced hurriedly at the tail end of the australian royal commission.. the commission was told by the society representatives that this would be "freely available to all congregants and interested people".. the commission quizzed the brothers as to whether it would "be freely handed out, or simply handed to those who requested it".
either way, it was to be freely available.. so imagine the surprise of one our fellow faders who attended a kh yesterday to ask for a copy!.
she politely and respectfully asked the brother at the door for a copy.
Thanks for posting those links Atlantis!
I think that the reason for the request, may have been twofold: 1) to actually get a copy 2) To see if ones at a cong level were even aware of it and the directions of the ARC (it seems they are still quite ignorant)
maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.
for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.
for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.
Also, as has been wisely said on this forum by ones like DoC:
"The best revenge is to live a happy and successful life"
maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.
for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.
for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.
Thanks for sharing this account!
First, well done to you for maintaining your humanity and decency by remaining friends ! Well done in not falling into the JW clone mindset and succumbing to their abusive and inappropriate behaviour!
Now, as for meeting with them in an official meeting?
DO NOT ATTEND! Can I be a little more clear? DO NOT ATTEND!
You have stated your points already with the other 2 elders. You do NOT need to go into an environment that is already biased against you, and that has an outcome already chalked up.
You owe NO EXPLANATION for your life to anyone.
Please remember this quote: "THE ONLY POWER PEOPLE HAVE OVER YOU, IS THAT WHICH YOU ALLOW"
Yes, by all means, maintain your Dignity, Poise and Grace. Be polite, but do NOT get drawn into a conversation. Simply reply something like "Thanks, but I trust that you will respect appropriate boundaries. Take care, and have a lovely day"
If they push the point, mildly repeat the same sentence.
Sending you much love and support!
so as we all know, the australian royal commission has it on record that a "child safegaurding policy" document was produced hurriedly at the tail end of the australian royal commission.. the commission was told by the society representatives that this would be "freely available to all congregants and interested people".. the commission quizzed the brothers as to whether it would "be freely handed out, or simply handed to those who requested it".
either way, it was to be freely available.. so imagine the surprise of one our fellow faders who attended a kh yesterday to ask for a copy!.
she politely and respectfully asked the brother at the door for a copy.
@jwleaks , this took place in a congregation in NSW (Sydney)
i know this sounds very outlandish by the title but hear this one out:.
a few months back i spoke to an old friend of mine raised "around the truth", but never baptized and wanting nothing to do with the wt.
he is very hip to what is going on in the wt however.
And the VERY issue the Russian govt had was that JWs are a dangerous high control extremist group led by American leaders...
The campaign to flood the govt WAS "Extreme"
The fact that 95% of witnesses simply did as they were told by their leaders WAS an"Extreme" demonstration of such "High control"
Really, was poking a Bear really a wise idea GB? Did the tactic work? Did it spare your flock from being banned? Did it protect your assets?
Or GB, did you simply antagonise your foe??
despite decades of the feminist movement, watchtower's attitude of woman being inferior has changed little, with pauline sexism justified as inspired, on the basis that women are lesser emotionally, intellectually and physically.
jehovah's witnesses seem to accept this with little resistance.
is there anything about the #metoo movement that may wake followers up?
Yes, good point Jwfacts.
Those women who do find the Jw and biblical misogyny to be outdated and unacceptable, will leave the Society.
Those that stay under such an oppressive and abusive yoke are either incapable of seeing such behaviour as wrong, or have been so conditioned into thinking it is "normal".
so as we all know, the australian royal commission has it on record that a "child safegaurding policy" document was produced hurriedly at the tail end of the australian royal commission.. the commission was told by the society representatives that this would be "freely available to all congregants and interested people".. the commission quizzed the brothers as to whether it would "be freely handed out, or simply handed to those who requested it".
either way, it was to be freely available.. so imagine the surprise of one our fellow faders who attended a kh yesterday to ask for a copy!.
she politely and respectfully asked the brother at the door for a copy.
Exactly Millie!
That is so true!
If they really want to demonstrate that they are a "loving" and "honest" organization, they would be PROACTIVE and freely distribute this letter! They would NOT have needed "Satan's" worldly judicial system to force them to act in the interests of child safety!
if you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?.
what defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?
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Good thread!
Yes, its an interesting question. Is failing to act, (if you have the power and ability to do so) acceptable?
Based on the scriptural message at ezekial 33:8,9 and ezekial 3:18, then failing to take action make someone guilty...
So, applying this to the Society, they have failed to act on many issues, including the correct way to handle child safety and child abuse issues! So, they are guilty according to their "God's" directions!
so as we all know, the australian royal commission has it on record that a "child safegaurding policy" document was produced hurriedly at the tail end of the australian royal commission.. the commission was told by the society representatives that this would be "freely available to all congregants and interested people".. the commission quizzed the brothers as to whether it would "be freely handed out, or simply handed to those who requested it".
either way, it was to be freely available.. so imagine the surprise of one our fellow faders who attended a kh yesterday to ask for a copy!.
she politely and respectfully asked the brother at the door for a copy.
So as we all know, the Australian Royal Commission has it on record that a "Child Safegaurding Policy" document was produced hurriedly at the tail end of the Australian Royal Commission.
The Commission was told by the Society representatives that this would be "freely available to all congregants and interested people".
The commission quizzed the brothers as to whether it would "be freely handed out, or simply handed to those who requested it"
Either way, it was to be FREELY AVAILABLE.
So imagine the surprise of one our fellow faders who attended a KH yesterday to ask for a copy!
She politely and respectfully asked the brother at the door for a copy. He knew nothing about it, so called another Elder over. He then called yet another Elder, and yet another! She was surrounded by three Elders who quizzed her (interrogated) about why she wanted it, what it even was, etc.. They replied that they would have to "ask the branch about it".
45 Mins later (while the meeting was proceeding), she left with no document, no help from the clueless Elders, and proof that the clear directions from the Australian Royal Commission has been ignored by the Society!