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  Informing of judicial decisions - how is it accomplished in 2018?

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how do jws (rank and file) know when to commence shunning the victim of an internal judicial proceeding ?

  what direction does the elders manual give to start the congregations participation in shunning?

  when did you most recently see this process initiated in a hall you attend?.

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  Yes, if someone is not DF or DA, but the elders deem them as dangerous, or feel the "flock should be safeguarded" from them, they will systematically and thoroughly ensure that an intense and deliberate character assassination takes place.

  They will talk to every congregation member saying things like "its best that you have nothing to do with so and so. We can't say why, but trust us, as we know of things...."

  That is called slander in most people's books. In JW land, that is called "elders protecting the flock"
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  "Thanks for the thought" - how the religion robs people of normal humanity

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so as you all know, my wife and i are not officially df or da.. a small event happened this week that i have to share!.

  a family that we were really close to (dinners and catch ups several times a month , go out socially often, play sport together, helped them through tough times, like uncle and aunty to their kids, etc).

  the wife's father died.

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  Thanks everyone for the replies.

  This family are not even what would be called "spiritual giants" in the congregation.

  The husband deliberately stays on the fringe. And yet, they have acted so over righteously!

  Not true friends.

  But , we rest easier with an honest heart for acting on our impulse to show kindness. $60 of wasted flowers, but a priceless attempt at kindness....and a priceless lesson learned.
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  THEY act like the ones who are hurt??!!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it really amazes me when jws act like we are hurting them!.

  many of us have found that if we stop associating with them for valid reasons, they act all upset and hurt that we would be "so cruel as to limit our association or cut them off".

  i know of friends here on the forum who have been told by parents that they "will shun them if they leave jehovah" , and yet when the shoe is on the other foot and our awake friends shun them first, the parents cry and bemoan the situation and say how "cruel it is to deprive them of their company".

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  Beautifully expressed @Wake me!

  Thanks for sharing something so raw and deep.

  Please remember that you have ones here who "are sticking closer than a brother" .Prov 18:24

  Yes, ones who are "100 fold like mothers and fathers" Matt 19:29

  (Yeah WT, we can quote scriptures right back at ya...)
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  GDPR: help for PIMOs

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.

  what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?

  (thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").

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  Great thread!

  Cant believe I missed it before.

  Splash's comments were spot on!
  
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  My JW Elder Brother Passed Away

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he was basically a good man, just a believer in the religion.

  when we were both elders we were best of friends and then things deteriorated when i was not an elder for a while.

  then after becoming an elder again, i slowly drifted away from the religion and he drifted further away from me.

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  so sorry min!
  
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  THEY act like the ones who are hurt??!!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it really amazes me when jws act like we are hurting them!.

  many of us have found that if we stop associating with them for valid reasons, they act all upset and hurt that we would be "so cruel as to limit our association or cut them off".

  i know of friends here on the forum who have been told by parents that they "will shun them if they leave jehovah" , and yet when the shoe is on the other foot and our awake friends shun them first, the parents cry and bemoan the situation and say how "cruel it is to deprive them of their company".

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  Calling out to "wake me up before you joho" to share her experience.....

  It fits this subject perfectly:
  
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  "Thanks for the thought" - how the religion robs people of normal humanity

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so as you all know, my wife and i are not officially df or da.. a small event happened this week that i have to share!.

  a family that we were really close to (dinners and catch ups several times a month , go out socially often, play sport together, helped them through tough times, like uncle and aunty to their kids, etc).

  the wife's father died.

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  So as you all know, my wife and I are not officially DF or DA.

  A small event happened this week that I have to share!

  A family that we were really close to (dinners and catch ups several times a month , go out socially often, play sport together, helped them through tough times, like uncle and aunty to their kids, etc)

  The wife's father died. We heard about it from the husband. So in our true fashion, we took flowers around. They were not home, so we left them at the door and sent a text message "so sorry to hear about the sad news. Lots of love ___"

  NO reply from her. One late text from him "thanks for thought"

  Now, we didn't want a song and dance or praise for it, but the level of coldness did strike me as really sad. Whatever gossip and slander the elders have spread about us must be at such a level that even an act of kindness like this is treated with contempt and suspicion.

  But, its not a cult or anything.....
  
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  Brilliant Medical Advice from the Slave

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not sure where i picked this up:.

  self explanatory science and medical advice from the faithful and brilliant servant class in brooklyn________________________________________thomas edison, the inventor and electrician, of phonograph and telephone fame, has been experimenting with the new light "x-rays.

  " and has succeeded in taking a photograph through oak eight inches thick.

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  A great thread!

  Thankyou!
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  THEY act like the ones who are hurt??!!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it really amazes me when jws act like we are hurting them!.

  many of us have found that if we stop associating with them for valid reasons, they act all upset and hurt that we would be "so cruel as to limit our association or cut them off".

  i know of friends here on the forum who have been told by parents that they "will shun them if they leave jehovah" , and yet when the shoe is on the other foot and our awake friends shun them first, the parents cry and bemoan the situation and say how "cruel it is to deprive them of their company".

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  Amazing comments!

  Yes, it amazes me (and yet it shouldn't be surprising) just how mentally disturbed witnesses are!

  My wife and I are not DF or DA, just faded officially. However, we have heard through the grapevine that "they have turned their backs on us"

  (ok, so as you all know, we ARE proudly apostate. But officially, there is no reason Jws should act so hurt. No elders have ever taken action)
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  Punctuation Is Important

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  “anne boleyn walked around and talked to her ladies in waiting half an hour after her head was cut off.”.

  “anne boleyn walked around and talked to her ladies in waiting; half an hour after, her head was cut off.”.

  please feel free to add your own examples and comments.. thanks..

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