I stumbled across this thread, and just had to bump it!
Its amazing to see how the manipulative tactics used by witnesses remains the same a decade on....
dear michelle, .
just one qucik letter to let you know i miss you.
like everyone else i am concerned for you; but dont worry im not going to lecture you.
I stumbled across this thread, and just had to bump it!
Its amazing to see how the manipulative tactics used by witnesses remains the same a decade on....
a worldly friend of mine i grew up with at school has at the ripe old age of 40 just posted an honest question on his fb page.. .
"which religion or belief system is the truth?
" be respectful please .
Very true point Wake!
Doubt is indeed what drives us to the pursuit of knowledge. Healthy scepticism is what helps us ensure we are not victims of credulity.
Anytime someone says they know something to be 100% true, they must have facts to back up that claim. Religions by their very nature CAN NOT back up their claims. That is what blind faith is....
not quite a week ago, @lost in the fog created a thread entitled: do you have this illness?.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5187824140681216/do-you-have-this-illness.
in my year of being on this forum, i have browsed many a disillusioned thread of ex-jehovah’s witnesses expressing similar symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder when detailing their awakening - my own story included.
Beautifully said once again @Wake me! 👍
just some random musings here.... picking up on the thoughts expressed in other posts (such as @wake me's post excellent earlier this week), about how "infantilized" jws are, it made me think of this post topic.. just like little children, jws need to be given constant praise and reassurance that they are doing well and doing the right thing.
also, they feel so bad if they stray or deviate from the ideal prescribed course, behaviors or activity that is approved by the society.. if they are told that they have "coloured outside the lines" so to speak, they feel dejected - or worse - defensive, depending on who points it out to them.
(eg a witness vs a non witness).
Great observation Wake! Yes, by simply substituting The Society for Jehovah, the flock will comply with everything!
now all australian states and territories have joined the national redress scheme to support and compensate children sexually abused by churches and institutions .. as well as many churches and others .. notably absent from joining the scheme are jehovah`s witnesses and some others..
Yes, as far as I know, LITERALLY every group brought before the Aust Royal Commission has agreed to the redress scheme, EXCEPT the arrogant JWs!
What the GB are waiting for is an apology from all those pesky kids who dared to make a fuss about all of this! How dare they....
just some random musings here.... picking up on the thoughts expressed in other posts (such as @wake me's post excellent earlier this week), about how "infantilized" jws are, it made me think of this post topic.. just like little children, jws need to be given constant praise and reassurance that they are doing well and doing the right thing.
also, they feel so bad if they stray or deviate from the ideal prescribed course, behaviors or activity that is approved by the society.. if they are told that they have "coloured outside the lines" so to speak, they feel dejected - or worse - defensive, depending on who points it out to them.
(eg a witness vs a non witness).
Haha @wake me! I know of a little one who likes drawing on his face....😉
just some random musings here.... picking up on the thoughts expressed in other posts (such as @wake me's post excellent earlier this week), about how "infantilized" jws are, it made me think of this post topic.. just like little children, jws need to be given constant praise and reassurance that they are doing well and doing the right thing.
also, they feel so bad if they stray or deviate from the ideal prescribed course, behaviors or activity that is approved by the society.. if they are told that they have "coloured outside the lines" so to speak, they feel dejected - or worse - defensive, depending on who points it out to them.
(eg a witness vs a non witness).
Just some random musings here...
Picking up on the thoughts expressed in other posts (such as @Wake Me's post excellent earlier this week), about how "infantilized" JWs are, it made me think of this post topic.
Just like little children, JWs need to be given constant praise and reassurance that they are doing well and doing the right thing. Also, they feel so bad if they stray or deviate from the ideal prescribed course, behaviors or activity that is approved by the Society.
If they are told that they have "Coloured outside the lines" so to speak, they feel dejected - or worse - defensive, depending on who points it out to them. (eg a witness vs a non witness)
It really highlights the lack of personal self esteem and self worth that the religion imposes on the average member. Yes, they are infantilized.
A sense of dependency is created and enforced... The Society has manipulatively made itself into the superior mentor and authority figure for all JWs.
"So kids - Do NOT colour outside the lines!", or you may get into trouble!
i have noticed a pattern of regurgitated excuses and justifications used by the average jw if the topic of child abuse gets raised:.
"oh but jehovah's organization is setting the lead in how to handle this issue".
"why are you getting so hung up on this one issue?
I have noticed a pattern of regurgitated excuses and justifications used by the average JW if the topic of child abuse gets raised:
"Oh but Jehovah's organization is setting the lead in how to handle this issue"
"Why are you getting so hung up on this one issue? Were you abused?"
"It is all apostate driven lies"
"you just seem to be using this topic as an excuse to be inactive"
"Just because one issue may have existed, doesnt mean this is not The Truth"
Have you heard any other mind numbing retorts?
how often have we heard some sort of sensationalist urban legend as jws?.
here is an example i was told as a kid:.
the experience of a sister who knocked on a door and was greeted by a big fierce looking man- intimidating and mean.
Oh keep them coming!
This is funny!
one of the things that really bothered me is how most of the book of revelation isn't understood by most jws.
most of the trumpets were already sounded many decades ago, is that still right?
it seems like most jws just look the other way.
Yes, it is simply arrogant and mind numbing that JWs think that the book of Revelation (written by a man in an obviously drug induced stupor), has its fulfillment in a small group of fringe religionists in 20th century USA!
How they try and justify a prophetic fulfillment to some small convention in the 1920's for instance is simply laughable!