my mother was not the most emotionally stable person.
she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.
its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.
Yes.
Lost opportunities can never be made up for!
Now, in my early 40's, I resent the opportunities that were denied me that I could have pursued.
Im not unhappy with my life as such now, BUT, what could I have been able to do if I was encouraged to succeed in life, rather than being suppressed as we were? I guess we will never know....
with much amusement i read the thread on women parking lot attendants and it got me to thinking about life at home for the average jw.. i believe i am correct in thinking that anything to do with jw-ism requires a penis, except all the leg work (fs & pioneers).
meaning the mic's, talks, etc... but yet the same guy who thinks his wife (or any other woman) is not bright enough to run the sound system for example doesn't mind his wife hauling hay, digging in the yard, managing the checkbook and other various physical jobs as well as jobs that do in fact require a brain larger than that of a gnat?.
let's say a guy is a bit technologically challenged but he can manage the sound system at the kh ok. i imagine he feels proud that he is getting to do this great privilege?
There is far too many non-penis-equipped people expressing opinions here on this thread!
It must stop now! Or Jehovah will get very upset you know! !
i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.
when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..
Ah @wake! I could not "like" your post! I always used to admire your father. However that kind of behaviour is just not acceptable.
I think I was even at your group study at that time?!?
at least in hindsight it would appear so.
i remember as a small kid not making friends because ultimately they were going to die.
i never saved anything because money would be useless in the new world.
Ah yes! How on earth can jws be 'stable' when they are constantly being told "you are not doing enough!" "Can you do more?" Etc etc...
The constant FOG (fear obligation guilt) is emotionally and sometimes even physically debilitating!
HBDay buddy!
i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.
when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..
Oh damn!
Thats so messed up....
I know of one sister who would drag her kids outside to belt them senseless...they would be heard crying out "Jehovah help me!" as they were dragged down the isle...
gdpr congregation record of processing activities: https://1drv.ms/f/s!amcrvjcxi6m6gx7oc1gksxolaeae.
...and associated files.... .
letter to boe dated january 6, 2017: https://1drv.ms/b/s!amcrvjcxi6m6gxyqlciog-dt815_.
Thanks for the post!
Im in the process of negotiating with the branch in my country to obtain all my data.
So far they have acted dishonestly, duplicitously and patronising by the way they have refused to comply with a polite request.
The requests will be getting less polite soon, and more legalistic....
stay tuned...
just skimmed through the latest broadcast.
( yes - i know , i should really get a life!
a lot of it seems to be regurgitated videos from previous months.
It's great! The very fact that I researched ONLY in the society's older publications was what led me to my awakening!
I had a service meeting talk that was all about "appreciating our rich theocratic heritage" and encouraged all to become familiar with the older publications in the library at the Kingdom Hall!
It was reading all those old books that made me see how batshit crazy the origins of the "truth" were!
i've posted this here so all visitors to this site can see info relating to the great expansion.. the kealba kingdom hall in st albans will be sold.
perhaps worth around au1.4 million dollars.
on two blocks of suburban land with off street parking.
Yet another example of the money grabbing....
i want to suggest something that i've been ruminating on for a while now.
that involves the possibility that when jehovah's witnesses look for "sheep-like ones" what they're actually looking for is this: those who will allow themselves to be dominated (get rid of things that god "hates," accept the movement's beliefs without protest, not check into the movement's history) and those who are willing to be shamed (letting jehovah's witnesses into their homes when doing so is looked down upon in secular society, talking with them on the street when everyone else avoids them).. i say this because from what i observed at the kingdom halls i attended in the course of gathering data for my research i saw:.
-frequent shaming: jehovah's witnesses must do more to be acceptable to god, they are "good for nothing slaves," they are spared through armageddon by jehovah's "undeserved kindness," etc.
Brilliant thread!
Great observations John. And great input from all here. I especially appreciated Wake Me's insights.
Yes, for Jehovah's Witnesses, FOG is very much in play : Fear Obligation Guilt
Would love to see your finished work John!
