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  TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS "Handling Cases of Drug Abuse" September 1, 2018

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.

  to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".

  september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.

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  What about a brother addicted to opioids!?

  I know of one who had to do months in a rehab facility for misusing those. Is judicial discipline supposed to be enacted? He escaped any punishment.
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  Here's another subtle reverse-witnessing topic:

  by neat blue dog in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the next time a jw brings up a natural disaster or severe weather event as proof of the last days, and they preface it by reciting a fact they heard on the news like, (just for the sake of example) 'it's the worst earthquake in 70 years' or 'the worst plague in 200' years', (you get the picture), then simply reply: "oh, so that means that ____ years ago there was one that was worse, right?".

  i did this twice.

  both times got the same response:.

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  We are living in the best time of human history in many ways.

  Medical improvements abound. Would we prefer to live in the Middle Ages when people died at 25 from a head cold??
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  I yelled at dubs today ( again )

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i roll up to the job site and looky there, two uber pioneer dubs dragging themselves down the sidewalk.

  both ladies are in there early 60's and born in.. my heart started pumping, but i had to act.i was directly across the street from them.

  i walked right to the sidewalk and said in a very loud, but not mean voice: "you can't teach overlapping generations from the bible!!

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  Sometimes it is so frustrating to see them out peddling their nonsense....
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  How to ween them off their 'drug' addiction!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the other day, we were discussing the similarities that a jw has to a drug addict.

  (or any form of addiction really).

  as jws, we constantly required "another hit" to keep the cravings at bay, or to keep the level of "high" as a "spiritual" person.. yet another jw related activity - ministry, meetings, publications, assemblies etc...just to keep the high level of euphoria.. but what happens when the "drug" supply is cut off?

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  Thanks Smiddy3!

  It does strike me as interesting, that if the "drug supply" is cut off from a JW, (eg they go away on a long holiday and break the JW routine), they are less motivated or inclined to get back into JW activity!

  So, just like weening someone off a controlling substance, they can break free - if the environment is right, and the supply is cut
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  How to ween them off their 'drug' addiction!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the other day, we were discussing the similarities that a jw has to a drug addict.

  (or any form of addiction really).

  as jws, we constantly required "another hit" to keep the cravings at bay, or to keep the level of "high" as a "spiritual" person.. yet another jw related activity - ministry, meetings, publications, assemblies etc...just to keep the high level of euphoria.. but what happens when the "drug" supply is cut off?

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  Good point Pale.

  Yes, it is indeed vital to find another "non-toxic" activity for life. Many can be attracted to another "false high" if not careful after leaving the WT
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  How to ween them off their 'drug' addiction!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the other day, we were discussing the similarities that a jw has to a drug addict.

  (or any form of addiction really).

  as jws, we constantly required "another hit" to keep the cravings at bay, or to keep the level of "high" as a "spiritual" person.. yet another jw related activity - ministry, meetings, publications, assemblies etc...just to keep the high level of euphoria.. but what happens when the "drug" supply is cut off?

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  stuckinarut2

  The other day, we were discussing the similarities that a JW has to a drug addict. (or any form of addiction really)

  As JWs, we constantly required "another hit" to keep the cravings at bay, or to keep the level of "high" as a "spiritual" person.

  Yet another JW related activity - ministry, meetings, publications, assemblies etc...just to keep the high level of euphoria.

  But what happens when the "drug" supply is cut off? What happens when they miss several meetings, assemblies and "spiritual food"? The level of "toxicity" within the body lessens, and the cravings can subside. Perhaps the REAL person can start to manifest out of the "drug induced" haze? Maybe they can see themselves without the need for "another fix"!?

  So what can we do to help our loved ones who are still "JW-drug addicted"? Can we start to ween them off the supply? Can we start to introduce replacements to their fix? Maybe start to broaden their life activities and outlook? Introduce the reality of life outside of the "fake euphoric haze".

  Offer to share fun times doing things in the community. Meet new people, see the positivity of life outside of the JW bubble! Introduce new ideas and perspectives on things...

  But, as with someone escaping a drug addiction - withdrawal MUST be done slowly and carefully - to prevent them from relapsing.

  Be patient, be calm, be loving.
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  PIMO to POMO

  by MaybeSo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok i'm ready for the transition.

  i am not writing anything to anyone or writing some dumb letter.

  the calls and visits trying to get me to come back will soon follow, the family guilt trips will intensify, loss of friends- really more like cult member associates, how the hell am i supposed to do this?

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  Just be mild and calm, and say things like:

  "Please respect appropriate boundaries. We'll contact you if we need your help in anyway. Have a nice day"

  This shows that the conversation is closed down - and that you are not going to be pushed by them - and that you are not under their control.
  
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  How many JW´s spend their whole lives being JW´s?

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ever since i became an exjw activist... i have wondered, how many people can i hope to reach?.

  what are the odds that my parents and loved ones will live out the remainder of their lives as jehovah´s witnesses?.

  is there a way to calculate the odds that any jw will remain a jw for the rest of their lives?.

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  Great thread!

  While it is true that many will remain as JWs because it is "familiar and safe" for them, others just need the supportive and gentle push towards freedom.

  As long as they have a safe landing place - with people who can help them, many will awaken.

  After our video went live, we have literally been swamped with people reaching out to us personally saying things like "we are still in, but know its not the truth, and have never spoken with ex-jws before - but are scared of breaking free" .

  But to their credit, they are reaching out now because they feel safe doing so.

  So all we need to do is create and provide a safe place for them to ask questions and raise concerns.Then they may see TTATT
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  What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.

  i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.

  however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?

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  My first "apostate" or negative information about the Society was actually when I read their own older publications! They were full of crazy nonsense that the modern organization would be ashamed of.

  That made me so curious...

  So I looked for support forums and found this great community. My soft landing place!

  I then remembered that a guy I was at Bethel with had supposedly started a site ...and I saw that Paul was here on this site too!. So I reached out to him anonymously.

  I then searched for his site...and it was jw.facts.com - and the rest is history!
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  The Unveiling

  by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ladies and gentlemen, i proudly present you with mr and mrs @stucknomore2.0:.

  https://youtu.be/o9bqz9jj_qg.

  sacha and sherrie, you've done an amazing job in spreading the word about this forum, and it is my sincerest hope that the plug you made brings some newcomers in.

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  stuckinarut2

  Thanks everyone!

  And wow! Thanks Wake Me Up! You are so supportive and awesome. We count it a privilege to have you as our adopted family.