Welcome!!
This is a great community - you will find fantastic support here.
just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.
i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.
the religion has become a nut house.
Welcome!!
This is a great community - you will find fantastic support here.
ok, so it’s not a jw prophetic prediction, but one from our “cousins” the mormons (or as the latest president of their church russel m nelson prefers ‘the church of jesus christ of latter day saints’).
i reckon they will drop their ban on caffeine soon.
they will change their long held beliefs about tea and coffee being wrong.. watch this space!
Ok, so it’s not a JW prophetic prediction, but one from our “cousins” the Mormons (or as the latest president of their church Russel M Nelson prefers ‘the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints’)
I reckon they will drop their ban on caffeine soon. They will change their long held beliefs about tea and coffee being wrong.
watch this space! 😜
Sorry I am late to this thread Kathy!
Thank you for sharing your story
Welcome to this great community!
we all know about the variation in the "cult persona vs the "real persona" of those in high control groups such as jws.. it struck me this becomes even more pronounced and apparent when jws actually put on their physical meeting or service attire, or are engaged in jw activities.
they become more robotic as their responses and actions - yes their opinions and discussions- are stripped of humanity and thought, and they become turned into some sort of regurgitating jw orator.. when they literally put on a suit or tie, the level of judgement, arrogance and black and white thinking takes on a whole new level.
take that clothing off, and put them in casual attire to attend some sort of enjoyable activity (eg sports watching or the like) and they become far more relaxed, and "normal".. i have noticed this particularly with my father.
We all know about the variation in the "Cult persona vs the "Real persona" of those in high control groups such as JWs.
It struck me this becomes even more pronounced and apparent when JWs actually put on their physical meeting or service attire, or are engaged in JW activities. They become more robotic as their responses and actions - yes their opinions and discussions- are stripped of humanity and thought, and they become turned into some sort of regurgitating JW orator.
When they literally put on a suit or tie, the level of judgement, arrogance and black and white thinking takes on a whole new level. Take that clothing off, and put them in casual attire to attend some sort of enjoyable activity (eg sports watching or the like) and they become far more relaxed, and "normal".
I have noticed this particularly with my father. On the day of the meeting (for the entire day before the night meeting), he is engrossed in JW preparation. This turns him into a totally different person. uptight, focussed, stressed etc...
But, the man who enjoys watching football is a relaxed ,happy person.
If there is a change in the mid week meeting schedule because of a weekend assembly, he is far more relaxed! Almost doesnt see that he is happy that he "gets a night off" from the meeting!
Any thoughts?
the spookiest questions about god are profound when we take one step back and examine who/what such a god would be... j-u-s-t before creating the universe.... .
before anything was created: god wouldn't have been "the creator".
with nobody around wouldn't be supreme being (superior to who/ what?
Interesting thread Terry!
You asked what we would think of someone who chose to live on their own and isolate themselves?
You also asked what sort of results this may cause in their thinking or personality?
Lets let "God's own word the bible" answer it:
Proverbs 18:1 "one who isolates himself will seek his own selfish longing"
https://biblehub.com/esv/proverbs/18-1.htm
Yup, this pretty much sums up "God" well. A selfish, narcisistic bully.....with serious control and power issues....
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/12/police-raid-jehovahs-witness-buildings-in-sexual-abuse-inquiries/
Wow!!
Just watch the JWs cry out "Persecution from Satan!"
If you hear someone say that, just repeat this expression: "Prosecution IS NOT Persecution"
Well done @wakeme! Great find
https://jwforwardcast.podbean.com/e/8-the-blueprint-for-happiness-with-covert-fade-and-alice-cheshire/.
this is a great episode of the jwforwardcast podcast that can be of help to all of us!.
it is an interesting episode that deals with regaining and maintaining a positive outlook as we awaken, and adjust to life outside of the jw clutches!.
This is a great episode of the jwforwardcast podcast that can be of help to all of us!
It is an interesting episode that deals with regaining and maintaining a positive outlook as we awaken, and adjust to life outside of the JW clutches!
I recommend a listen
i just wanted to express a sincere thanks for the amazing community of friends we have built up thanks to sites like this.. the genuine people we can now call true friends is outstanding.. to all those who are newly awakening, or are just starting to contemplate a life outside of the jw bubble, please be reassured that you will indeed make good friends if you put yourself out there.. true,not every ex-jw will be an instant friend.
you will not click with everyone.
but as with life in general, if you put in the effort, a new circle of genuine friends exist out there!.
A well known expression came to mind too:
"To have friends, we need to be a friend"
So, that inspires me each day to reach out and support others and just be a friend - especially to those who may be newly escaping the JW Organisation.
For those that are new - we are here for you all!
https://www.facebook.com/100007790431349/posts/2589219451347711/ .
BRILLIANT!