Posts by stuckinarut2

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Rappin' for Jesus

by Simon in

"how do we appeal more to the 'youths' ...".

"... i know - we'll do a religious rap !".

"kids love that shit ...".

My Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain Moment...

by HiddenPimo in

this is my first post.

i am physically in and mentally out.

well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.

stuckinarut2

Welcome !

You are with friends here. We totally understand the path you have walked - we have been down such similar paths ourselves.

Please feel comfortable to be yourself here.

Much love and support!

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"ToMo3's liquor purchase video actually PROVES Jehovah's direction!"

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so i played the game of putting on my jw apologetic cap for a moment, and thought of how a devout jw could rationalize this whole liquor buying situation.. they could say:.

"this actually proves that jehovah is guiding his organization!!

he was bringing this activity of tomo3 to light, and it would also prove to be a loyalty test for all jws, to see if they would be stumbled right out of the truth!".

stuckinarut2

Or maybe they will just say "That was a photoshopped fake video!"

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"ToMo3's liquor purchase video actually PROVES Jehovah's direction!"

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so i played the game of putting on my jw apologetic cap for a moment, and thought of how a devout jw could rationalize this whole liquor buying situation.. they could say:.

"this actually proves that jehovah is guiding his organization!!

he was bringing this activity of tomo3 to light, and it would also prove to be a loyalty test for all jws, to see if they would be stumbled right out of the truth!".

stuckinarut2

OK, so I played the game of putting on my JW apologetic cap for a moment, and thought of how a devout JW could rationalize this whole liquor buying situation.

They could say:

"This actually proves that Jehovah is guiding his organization!! He was bringing this activity of ToMo3 to light, and it would also prove to be a loyalty test for all JWs, to see if they would be stumbled right out of the truth!"

I know we have all heard JWs rationalize the most ridiculous stuff of the Society...so how is this going to be any different?

Thoughts?

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The subtle , yet massive change of Matt 5:32 in the "New" New World Translation

by stuckinarut2 in

so i noticed this change in the text of the new silver nwt compared to the older nwt at matthew 5:32. old nwt:.

"however, i say to you that everyone divorcing his wife , except on the grounds of fornication makes her a subject for adultery...etc" .

new nwt:.

stuckinarut2

I was always under the impression that "sexual immorality" was anything outside of normal marriage.

So that is why I think that this wording change seems to allow a greater scope of reasons for divorce if the elders say so?

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Something different about the memorial invitation

by days of future passed in

i found this memorial invitation quite different than the previous ones.

i couldn't find a more recent posting about the invite, so i may be going over old ground.. at first i just looked thru it.

but then on second look, i realized there was more going on than i thought.

stuckinarut2

Can someone please post the actual pics of the memorial invitation?

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

stuckinarut2

Let me tell you, I learned all about alcohol while at bethel!

I never drank before spending 5 years there. (mind you it was also my "youth" years until I was 24, so thats probably normal?)

Many at bethel had home brew kits set up in the tunnels underground, and had secret stashes of drink in their walk in wardrobes...

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The subtle , yet massive change of Matt 5:32 in the "New" New World Translation

by stuckinarut2 in

so i noticed this change in the text of the new silver nwt compared to the older nwt at matthew 5:32. old nwt:.

"however, i say to you that everyone divorcing his wife , except on the grounds of fornication makes her a subject for adultery...etc" .

new nwt:.

stuckinarut2

So I noticed this change in the text of the new silver NWT compared to the older NWT at Matthew 5:32

Old NWT:

"However, I say to you that everyone divorcing his wife , except on the grounds of fornication makes her a subject for adultery...etc"

New NWT:

"However, I say to you that everyone divorcing his wife , except on the grounds of sexual immorality makes her a subject for adultery...etc"

So this got me thinking about how this seemingly subtle change can now lead to JW's having a changed view?

I can just see a JW spouse who finds out their husband has watched "pornography", and comes to the elders with this scripture. According to the "bible" and JW's definition of "immorality", porn is not allowed.

Or what if someone "engages in masturbation" which is considered to be "immorality" in the eyes of JWs?

Technically, this change in the bible wording could allow room for such reasoning?

In the past it could have been said by an accused "Oh I didnt actually commit "fornication", it was just porn or masturbation".

Thoughts?

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

stuckinarut2

I was quite hesitant to jump on this at first, as technically he is not doing anything wrong per se.

BUT, then the scriptures at 1 Cor 8 and Romans 14 came to mind:

"If eating meat or anything else causes my brother to stumble, I will not do it...so as to not make my brother stumble" etc

SO, surely he lacked wisdom in choosing to buy so many bottles all at once in such an odd way? He removed them from their individual gift boxes, which may mean they are not a gift for others, and he really seemed to know his product when asked.

So, even though it isnt wrong to buy and consume alcohol, was it the wisest thing for the annointed of Jehovah - christ's brother, to do?

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What to do when running in to a JW you know...How is this for a suggestion ?

by stuckinarut2 in

hey all,.

so i have recently seen quite a few jws that were former friends in our community.

i am always polite and say hello - although most will not acknowledge me.

stuckinarut2

Hey all,

So I have recently seen quite a few JWs that were former friends in our community. I am always polite and say hello - although most will not acknowledge me. That's cool.

But it got me thinking about how I can change the dynamics as I say hi.

Remember, we who have woken up have nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed about, even though the Society tries to imply that we are all unhappy, or ashamed about "leaving Jehovah's organization"

So how about this "Hi ___. lovely to see you. I just want to let you know that if you ever realize the reasons why we left, or find out the truth about the truth, I want to reassure you that you have a safe place with us. Please feel free to contact us for support or help - as we know how disturbing it can be and how alone you may feel. We are here for you"

If said in a sincere and kind manner, it may leave the door open for a further chat ...

Thoughts?