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  found this interesting...

  by luna in

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  x - close recent stories by john christoffersen associated press.

  stabbing of jehovah's witness poses legal quandary

  by john christoffersen, associated press.

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  luna

  You're welcome!
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  A question for all women that were raised in the "truth"

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  do you feel like you have low self esteem because of being raised as a jw?.

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  Exactly.

  I'd have made a HORRIBLE dubby wife. I don't do well w/ men trying to make me feel inferior, "do what we tell you because i'm your husband".

  Uh..NO.

  I'm WAY too independant and stubborn, and would probably either killed or beat the $&*% out of some bethelite that tried to do that to me. (just joking, of course, but you get my drift.)

  Worldly boys are MUCH more understanding of this trait.

  haha.
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  A question for all women that were raised in the "truth"

  by codeblue in

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  do you feel like you have low self esteem because of being raised as a jw?.

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  Meg-

  That makes sense. Alas, I was never the perfect witness. I knew the kids at school were more fun. :)

  I gave up trying to fit in, in the congregation. It was never going to work. I didn't dress like a good dubby, and I didn't go out in service enough. Being a good witness in school wouldn't have helped me any. Besides, there were no other witness kids in school to monitor my activities. :)
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  YOU ATHIEST GOD HATERS WONT NOT GET NO BLESINGS AT ARMAGEDON MARK MY WERDS

  by Aztec in

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  what's more important: the message or the messanger?.

  ~az

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  luna

  The messanger.

  I tend to not read things that have bad spelling, etc. HA! I guess that's just my snobby, english, nerdiness coming out. Oh well.

  But, then the message itself is rather stupid. So, I guess both. :)
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  A question for all women that were raised in the "truth"

  by codeblue in

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  do you feel like you have low self esteem because of being raised as a jw?.

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  Meg-

  Not necessarily. I always fit in, in school. I was the only witness in my high school, but I never got treated like an outcast. More like, everyone thought my parents were Nazi's. But, I never lacked in any "worldly" friends, and was always popular enough to enjoy going to school.

  On the OTHER hand, I never fit it in the congregation. I was too freespirited, and never dubby enough for anyone, or rather, anyone's PARENTS to accept me.

  If I have any self esteem issues, which I do at times, I think a lot of it has to do w/ how I was treated in the congration, not in the real world.

  Since I've been out, my self esteem has shot up considerably.

  Luna
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  found this interesting...

  by luna in

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  stabbing of jehovah's witness poses legal quandary

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  x - close Recent Stories By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN Associated Press Stabbing of Jehovah's Witness poses legal quandary By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN, Associated Press Last Updated 10:16 a.m. PST Monday, January 12, 2004 GREENWICH, Conn. (AP) - When Carol Ferenz stood by her religious principles, it may have cost her life. It certainly left authorities in a legal quandary about her son. Ferenz, a Jehovah's Witness, turned down a blood transfusion after she was stabbed repeatedly in her Greenwich home on New Year's Eve. The Westchester County Medical Examiner in New York said her death was a homicide caused by blood loss from stab wounds. Her 42-year-old son, Stephen Ferenz, who is mentally ill, is charged with assault. Authorities are weighing whether to charge him with homicide; they are looking at what role his mother's refusal of a transfusion played in her death. "Certainly it had to play some role," said prosecutor Jim Bernardi. "At this point, the degree to which it affected the outcome is still awaiting a review of the medical records." Jehovah's Witnesses cite verses in the Bible that they say forbid transfusions. One often-cited Leviticus passage reads: "Whatsoever man ... eats any manner of blood, I will cut him off from among his people." Ferenz is being held on $1 million bail under a suicide watch. A similar case occurred in 1998 in California, when a Jehovah's Witness who was hit by a drunken driver refused a transfusion and died. The 32-year-old driver, Keith Cook, blamed Jadine Russell's death on her religious faith, but Cook was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 10 years in prison. Most defenses in such cases fail, said Laurie Levenson, a criminal law professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. "Overwhelmingly, the person who inflicted the harm is still responsible, notwithstanding the victim's decision to reject medical treatment," Levenson said. "The issue is who caused her death - her son or her decision not to have the blood transfusion." But Levenson said prosecutors are wise to proceed cautiously, noting that jurors can be unpredictable. Ferenz, 63, was stabbed in the chest and arm with a household knife. She was taken to a Greenwich hospital and later to Westchester Medical Center in Valhalla, N.Y., where she died on New Year's Day. "She looked the doctor in the eye and said, 'No transfusion, no blood,'" said her husband, retired mail carrier Andrew Ferenz. Ferenz said his son has been on medication for 25 years. "When he does go off of it, he can't control himself," Ferenz said. "This is the only time he got violent." Ferenz said "no way" should his son be charged with homicide. "He doesn't know what he's doing," Ferenz said. "He needs help." Police had been called to the Ferenz's house many times. Stephen Ferenz suffers from manic depression, Bernardi said. Ferenz's public defender declined to comment. Church officials said it was Carol Ferenz's decision not to accept a transfusion. "The family called us for comfort and encouragement," said Jonathan Saxon, a church spokesman. "She did not ask us for a blood transfusion." Saxon said church members accept alternatives to transfusions. For example, the Center for Bloodless Medicine and Surgery at Hartford Hospital employs aggressive steps to stop bleeding, liquid solutions to replace lost blood, and medications to speed the build-up of blood, said the center's coordinator, Suzanne Russell. The family lives in a neighborhood of modest homes in this mostly wealthy suburb of New York City. In addition to caring for her son, Ferenz opened her home to others for weekly Bible study discussions, said Fred Kida, a friend and fellow church member. "She loved her God Jehovah," Kida said. "She showed this by her speech, her actions, keeping her integrity to the very end."
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  Get Fuzzy

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  the comic strip get fuzzy opines on the subject of high-control religions... .

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  luna

  Get Fuzzy is probably my favorite comic strip. It ALWAYS cracks me up.

  This is funny...
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  The newest love of my life (hot babe photos)

  by seven006 in

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  this is my baby grand daughter, her name is aunna.

  she turned a year old three days ago when i shot these photos.

  the good looking guy is my oldest son nathan, her daddy.

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  luna

  She's a doll...

  But, i'm scared, considering I used to babysit Nathan and Emory at conventions, etc...

  God, i'm getting old.
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  Wrapping Gifts

  by Nosferatu in

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  first of all, i want to wish merry christmas to all those i haven't wished yet.

  that means all of you!

  there isn't a person i don't like on here.

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  luna

  I'm with you...I can't wrap at all. I always end up w/ too much paper on the sides, and have to do some creative folding to be able to even tape them down. If I try and CUT the sides, it ends up looking like $% because I always end up cutting TOO much off. Oh well, I kind-of am going w/ the idea that unless someone is an uptight jerk, they really don't care what the wrapping looks like, anyhow. It always gets ripped off in 2.4 seconds, regardless of how nice it may or may not look.

  Merry Christmas everyone, and have fun wrapping!!!
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  Anyone seen Return of the King yet??

  by Gretchen956 in

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  i am chomping at the bit to go to see rotk!!

  you won't be giving anything away, because i believe i have read the series upwards of 20 or more times over the years, but how was it?

  thoughts?.

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  luna

  I don't care what you all say....i'm ALL about Aragorn. Legolas is pretty, but Aragorn is just.....sexy.

  Anyhow, saw it last night. SO GOOD!! Better than the First 2, and that is saying a LOT.

  They did an awesome job. I didn't want it to end, either. I wish they'd shown a little more at the end. (i.e. Eowyn and Faramir).

  AWESOME!!