The only senator with that name is I can now confirm a student at the college, not a U.S. Senator. Kent Steinhaug or his researcher need to be more careful. However, there was also a ten year affiliation as a Non-Governmental Organization with the U.N. which angered those members who have learned of it, and which the leadership tried to explain away as simply for getting a U.N. library card.
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by Voyager inthis forum has uncovered many jws who were found out to be political officials.
if this information should be old to some,--then perhaps for those who have just left the borg, might find the information helpful to reinforce their freedom.
the thread is very long, so if it should not work, then please go to kent steinhaug's forum at watchtower observer.. http://kent.steinhaug.com/forum/showthread.php?s=f3aa440065982e1f53cc3efe02055681&threadid=2744 .
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Watchtower Society Sued For Covering Up For Molestor Derek Packowski
by qua insacramento vicinity (loomis, rocklin, sunset congregations): court documents were just issued charging derek packowski and the watchtower society corporations.
the papers were filed by the legal firm of nolen saul brelsford of sacramento, california.
the child molestor and said corporations headed by the governing body over jehovah?s witnesses, were charged with not reporting to law enforcement and systematically conspiring and suppressing information about sexual molestation committed by packowski when he was in a congregation in des plaines, illinois, also after about 1984 and later in california at the loomis congregation from which formed the rocklin and sunset congregations.
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Senator Bednar Leaves Watchtower!
by Voyager inthis forum has uncovered many jws who were found out to be political officials.
if this information should be old to some,--then perhaps for those who have just left the borg, might find the information helpful to reinforce their freedom.
the thread is very long, so if it should not work, then please go to kent steinhaug's forum at watchtower observer.. http://kent.steinhaug.com/forum/showthread.php?s=f3aa440065982e1f53cc3efe02055681&threadid=2744 .
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The guy who was President of Zambia while a JW was eventually disfellowshipped although as gently as possible and things done to maintain friendly relations to thus better advance Watchtower Society interests. Former U.S. President Eisenhower had J.W. parents. It is claimed that Reagan sometimes read the magazines, and that Fidel Castro's mother in Spain is still a JW to his personal chagrin. Thanks for some interesting information. While at it, here's an item some of you may want to mail around to editors, JWs, exJWs and others:
LEGAL EMERGENCY GRIPS GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES: Court documents issued November 2003 charging Derek Packowski and the Watchtower Society corporations over Jehovah's Witnesses were filed by the legal firm of Nolen Saul Brelsford of Sacramento, California. The child molestor and corporations listed as headed by the Governing Body over Jehovah?s Witnesses, were charged with not reporting to law enforcement and systematically conspiring and suppressing information about sexual molestation committed by Packowski when he was in a congregation in Des Plaines, Illinois, also after about 1984 and later in California at the Loomis Congregation from which formed the Rocklin and Sunset Congregations. At Loomis and Sunset congregations he was allowed unsupervised interaction with children including plaintiffs Tim C, Robert C, Andrew C and Trevor L about 1986-1998. Later as a Ministerial Servant he was allowed unsupervised contact with congregation children. Defendants routinely maintained secret archival files regarding sexual abuse by Elders, Ministerial Servants, Pioneers, and other leaders. The file's existence and contents were not disclosed or made available to law enforcement or others in order to investigate the crimes. This was probably the largest lawsuit to date regarding Watchtower pedophile policy. The Governing Body says scripture demands there be two witnesses to a pedophile act although exceptions have sometimes been made and some have cited Solomon's "there is a time and place for everything." Members and former members have also decried the leadership's having been a ten year Non-Governmental Organization of the U.N., an affiliation renewed annually by leaders until discovered at which time it was said membership was just to get a U.N. library card, although the U.N. does not actually require such. Watchtower elders disfellowship (severely shun) those who openly protest, labeling them as apostates (enemies of God), and warning members to ignore media accounts.
Regarding the lawsuit refer to Rudy Nolen, Esq SBN 59808 Jonathan Saul, Esq SBN 189271 William Brelsford, Esq SBN 202839; Nolen Saul Brelsford; 350 University Ave Suite 280; Sacramento, California 95825 Telephone: (916) 564-9990; Facs (916) 564-9991. Item posted in full at http://www.silentlambs.org or http://silentlambs.org/newsletter/NewsLetterItem.cfm?SendoutID=159 -
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Watchtower Society Sued For Covering Up For Molestor Derek Packowski
by qua insacramento vicinity (loomis, rocklin, sunset congregations): court documents were just issued charging derek packowski and the watchtower society corporations.
the papers were filed by the legal firm of nolen saul brelsford of sacramento, california.
the child molestor and said corporations headed by the governing body over jehovah?s witnesses, were charged with not reporting to law enforcement and systematically conspiring and suppressing information about sexual molestation committed by packowski when he was in a congregation in des plaines, illinois, also after about 1984 and later in california at the loomis congregation from which formed the rocklin and sunset congregations.
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That should be easy. Here I've rewritten it just a little to make it worth anyone's photocopying and distributing to various news editors, mailing to the friends and the like I'll put one on a separate string for those interested since this string is now being buried under others.
LEGAL EMERGENCY GRIPS GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES: Court documents issued November 2003 charging Derek Packowski and the Watchtower Society corporations over Jehovah's Witnesses were filed by the legal firm of Nolen Saul Brelsford of Sacramento, California. The child molestor and corporations listed as headed by the Governing Body over Jehovah?s Witnesses, were charged with not reporting to law enforcement and systematically conspiring and suppressing information about sexual molestation committed by Packowski when he was in a congregation in Des Plaines, Illinois, also after about 1984 and later in California at the Loomis Congregation from which formed the Rocklin and Sunset Congregations. At Loomis and Sunset congregations he was allowed unsupervised interaction with children including plaintiffs Tim C, Robert C, Andrew C and Trevor L about 1986-1998. Later as a Ministerial Servant he was allowed unsupervised contact with congregation children. Defendants routinely maintained secret archival files regarding sexual abuse by Elders, Ministerial Servants, Pioneers, and other leaders. The file's existence and contents were not disclosed or made available to law enforcement or others in order to investigate the crimes. This became probably the largest lawsuit to date regarding Watchtower pedophile policy. The Governing Body says scripture demands there be two witnesses to a pedophile act although exceptions have sometimes been made and some have cited Solomon's "there is a time and place for everything." Members and former members have also decried the leadership's having been a ten year Non-Governmental Organization of the U.N., an affiliation renewed annually by leaders until discovered at which time it was said membership was just to get a U.N. library card, although the U.N. does not actually require such. Watchtower elders disfellowship (severely shun) those who openly protest, labeling them as apostates (enemies of God), and warning members to ignore media accounts.
Regarding the lawsuit refer to Rudy Nolen, Esq SBN 59808 Jonathan Saul, Esq SBN 189271 William Brelsford, Esq SBN 202839; Nolen Saul Brelsford; 350 University Ave Suite 280; Sacramento, California 95825 Telephone: (916) 564-9990; Facs (916) 564-9991. Item posted in full at silentlambs.org or http://silentlambs.org/newsletter/NewsLetterItem.cfm?SendoutID=159 -
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Watchtower Society Sued For Covering Up For Molestor Derek Packowski
by qua insacramento vicinity (loomis, rocklin, sunset congregations): court documents were just issued charging derek packowski and the watchtower society corporations.
the papers were filed by the legal firm of nolen saul brelsford of sacramento, california.
the child molestor and said corporations headed by the governing body over jehovah?s witnesses, were charged with not reporting to law enforcement and systematically conspiring and suppressing information about sexual molestation committed by packowski when he was in a congregation in des plaines, illinois, also after about 1984 and later in california at the loomis congregation from which formed the rocklin and sunset congregations.
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Another question. Anybody know who some of the elders or "20 [John] Does" are?
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Watchtower Society Sued For Covering Up For Molestor Derek Packowski
by qua insacramento vicinity (loomis, rocklin, sunset congregations): court documents were just issued charging derek packowski and the watchtower society corporations.
the papers were filed by the legal firm of nolen saul brelsford of sacramento, california.
the child molestor and said corporations headed by the governing body over jehovah?s witnesses, were charged with not reporting to law enforcement and systematically conspiring and suppressing information about sexual molestation committed by packowski when he was in a congregation in des plaines, illinois, also after about 1984 and later in california at the loomis congregation from which formed the rocklin and sunset congregations.
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Yes. The California congregations are by Sacramento and northeast from San Francisco. By the way, didn't the Governing Body member Leo Greenlees attend somewhere in that area? Pat Garza spoke of ritualistic (regular) Satanic (pure evil) abuse of children by Watchtower in Los Angeles, California which is farther south.
The halls there need investigated by law enforcement or the F.B.I., too. I bet they have a lot being hidden since there's a lot of large congregations with lots of kids the pedophiles can operate among. California has more JWs packed into it than any other part of the U.S. unless maybe beaten out by New York.
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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!
by AwakenedAndFree indid you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
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Agreed. One does not need "Watchtower" to be with "Jehovah."
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Sacramento Child Molestor... St Louis
by qua inthe sideboard called friends is where i just posted the following about a brand new child abuse case that broke near sacramento, california.
you can thank silentlambs.org for the original.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/62695/1.ashx.
also, does anyone have information regarding the st. louis area?
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The sideboard called Friends is where I just posted the following about a brand new child abuse case that broke near Sacramento, California. You can thank silentlambs.org for the original.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/62695/1.ashx
Also, does anyone have information regarding the St. Louis area? I prefer to get all email at [email protected]
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JEHOVAH
by minimus inwe all know that we do not know the correct pronunciation of the name of god.
over 6000 times, the tetragrammaton is mentioned in the ot.
yet for some reason, most bibles do not use the name jehovah or yahweh but a few times.
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Christ said address God in prayer as "Our Father." Paul said those close to God call out to "Abba" (Papa/Dad). Should you obey the Watchtower's emphasis on using a formal title or go by what Christ and Paul said in the Bible itself and seek closeness. The answer is obvious. Watchtowerites like to hear you pray to "Jehovah" as it shows a degree of loyalty to their organization which is a mock imitation of the true organization which remains securely in heaven.
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Watchtower Society Sued For Covering Up For Molestor Derek Packowski
by qua insacramento vicinity (loomis, rocklin, sunset congregations): court documents were just issued charging derek packowski and the watchtower society corporations.
the papers were filed by the legal firm of nolen saul brelsford of sacramento, california.
the child molestor and said corporations headed by the governing body over jehovah?s witnesses, were charged with not reporting to law enforcement and systematically conspiring and suppressing information about sexual molestation committed by packowski when he was in a congregation in des plaines, illinois, also after about 1984 and later in california at the loomis congregation from which formed the rocklin and sunset congregations.
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SACRAMENTO VICINITY (Loomis, Rocklin, Sunset Congregations): Court documents were just issued charging Derek Packowski and the Watchtower Society corporations. The papers were filed by the legal firm of Nolen Saul Brelsford of Sacramento, California. The child molestor and said corporations headed by the Governing Body over Jehovah?s Witnesses, were charged with not reporting to law enforcement and systematically conspiring and suppressing information about sexual molestation committed by Packowski when he was in a congregation in Des Plaines, Illinois, also after about 1984 and later in California at the Loomis Congregation from which formed the Rocklin and Sunset Congregations. At Loomis and Sunset congregations he was allowed unsupervised interaction with children including plaintiffs Tim C, Robert C, Andrew C and Trevor L about 1986-1998. Later as a Ministerial Servant he was allowed unsupervised contact with congregation children. Defendants routinely maintained secret archival files regarding sexual abuse by Elders, Ministerial Servants, Pioneers, and other leaders. The file's existence and contents were not disclosed or made available to law enforcement or others in order to investigate the crimes. Refer to Rudy Nolen, Esq SBN 59808 Jonathan Saul, Esq SBN 189271 William Brelsford, Esq SBN 202839; Nolen Saul Brelsford; 350 University Ave Suite 280; Sacramento, California 95825 Telephone: (916) 564-9990; Facs (916) 564-9991 http://silentlambs.org/newsletter/NewsLetterItem.cfm?SendoutID=159 *