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  Article: Reveal News-California court guts child abuse ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. child-abuse

  http://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.

  topics: religion / religion and government .

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  anyone on any pro JW message boards to see their comments on this?
  
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  Candice conti case appeal

  by ashpman in

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  just got this email.

  does anyone know what this means?.

  disposition date (yyyy-mm-dd): 2015-04-13disposition description: affirmed/part, rev/part, remanded w/directiondisposition status as of 2015-04-13: final notes: the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.

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  @afrikanman in my opinion it is only in the interest of the watchtower to take this higher. Candice has seen the payouts as well as the judgements whittle away from her favor as time goes on. In this case the watchtower has been held accountable but in a much lesser degree than originally ruled. If the watchtower wanted to try and reduce their payout to her, then it would be in their interest to appeal
  
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  Article: Reveal News-California court guts child abuse ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.

  topics: religion / religion and government .

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  @Heaven and that same statement validates their database as acceptable, which was one of the big arguments against them.
  
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  Article: Reveal News-California court guts child abuse ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.revealnews.org/article/california-court-guts-child-abuse-ruling-against-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  california court guts child abuse ruling against jehovahs witnesses.

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  This will be viewed as a victory by almost all JWs. The court ruled that the only real problem was the supervision during field service. A jw will say that's a congregation problem and not an organization problem. Easily they will blame imperfect elders. Also this ruling more or less upholds their database as legal and keeping it a secret is ok.

  I posted awhile ago that these lawsuits won't do much harm to the wtbs and I still think that. This case especially was going to bring them to their knees many thought. Don't be surprised when this very thing happens in the Lopez case.
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  Biggest SCAM in the history of mankind - [except for Watchtower]

  by Esse quam videri in

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  you may find this of interest.

  how money and greed really work.. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x25210y_the-biggest-scam-in-the-history-of-mankind-hidden-secrets_tech.

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  This all just plays into the conspiracy new world order believers. There is no other currency system to be had. These videos produced don't offer any way to change the system just what's wrong with it. Money is fake, everyone knows it but it's the only thing the world uses to buy and sell. There will be a future financial "collapse" because history shows that's what economies do. The evil bankers don't want a collapse anymore than the rest of us do.
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  Recycled WTS beliefs

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know the wts abandons and invents beliefs faster than apple can churn out new shiny stuff.

  but have they ever abandoned a belief and later picked it up again?.

  i remember many years ago we had one of those post-district-assembly review parts (part of the service meeting) where they were discussing some "new light".. there was some confusion about which was the "new" and which was the "old" and a semi-discussion ensued with people commenting.

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  The generations doctrine. In 1997 they had a footnote that said this:

  So the recent information in The Watchtower about "this generation" did not change our understanding of what occurred in 1914. But it did give us a clearer grasp of Jesus' use of the term "generation," helping us to see that his usage was no basis for calculating-counting from 1914-how close to the end we are." Watchtower 1997 Jun 1 p.28

  
  

  The overlapping generations teaching is calculated again from 1914.
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  WT addresses the "rapture" teaching.

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  look at paragraph 15 of the 2015 july 15th study edition pg 18-19.. http://imgur.com/3wparys.

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  basically they admit to teaching the rapture (for the anointed remnant), just don't call it that!.

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  They really could one day promote the trinity and call it something different and JWs would lap it up.
  
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  Pregnant women refuses blood

  by Giordano in

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  http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refusal-of-blood-transfusion-mother-and-baby-die#more-4001.

  a 28-year-old woman and her unborn child have died because of the womans decision not to accept a lifesaving blood transfusion.. doctors at the royal hospital for women and prince of wales hospital in randwick, sydney, australia, have described the harrowing effect on hospital staff of two otherwise avoidable deaths.. the woman, a jehovahs witness, was seven months into her pregnancy when it was discovered she had leukaemia.. amy corderoy, health editor, reporting in the sydney morning herald states,.

  more than 80% of pregnant women suffering from the cancer, called acute promyelocytic leukaemia, will go into remission with proper treatment, and the outlook for their babies is good.. .

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  In the 4/15/2009 Watchtower Question from Readers They changed their stance on unborn children to that they don't know.
  

  To summarize, then, the Bible clearly teaches that life begins at conception and that Jehovah sees the unborn child as a unique and valued individual. In the light of those Scriptural truths, some might see it as inconsistent to argue that there is no hope for a resurrection of an unborn child that dies. Indeed, they might feel that such an argument undermines our Scriptural stand against abortion, which is largely based on those very truths.
  In the past, this journal has raised some practical questions that seem to cast doubt on the possibility of a resurrection for children who died before birth. For example, would God implant even a partially developed embryo in the womb of a woman in Paradise? However, further study and prayerful meditation has led the Governing Body to conclude that such considerations do not really have a bearing on the resurrection hope. Jesus said: “All things are possible with God.” (Mark 10:27) Jesus’ own experience demonstrated the truth of that statement; his life was transferred from heaven to the womb of a young virgin—surely an utter impossibility from a human standpoint.
  Does all of this mean, then, that the Bible teaches that children who perish before birth will be resurrected? We must emphasize that the Bible does not directly answer that question, so there is no basis for humans to be dogmatic on the matter. This subject may give rise to an almost endless variety of questions. Really, though, it seems best to avoid speculation. What we know is this: The matter rests with Jehovah God, who is abundant in loving-kindness and mercy. (Ps. 86:15) Unquestionably, it is his heartfelt desire to undo death by means of the resurrection. (Job 14:14, 15) We can be confident that he always does what is right. He will provide healing for the many wounds inflicted upon us by life in this wicked system of things as he lovingly directs his Son to “break up the works of the Devil.”—1 John 3:8.
  
  
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  Patient dies as JW paramedic refuses to administer blood product -- thanks, Religious Freedom Act!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  (i realize this topic may have already been addressed so i apologize in advance.).

  no, that's not a real headline but i suppose it could be one here in arkansas -- one of several states in the us that has a religious freedom law on their books.. as i understand it, if i, as a jw paramedic, am ordered to deliver a blood product to my patient, i can refuse to do so based on my religious freedom.

  as a logical consequence, a patient could die.. would paramedic be an occupation be that one of jehovah's witnesses simply cannot accept, knowing fully well that you would be in a likely position to administer blood..

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  4/15/1999 Question from readers footnote.

  Some Christians working in hospitals have had to consider this factor of authority. A physician might have authority to order medications for or medical procedures on a patient. Even if a patient did not mind, how could a Christian doctor in authority order a blood transfusion or perform an abortion, knowing what the Bible says on such matters? In contrast, a nurse employed at the hospital might not have such authority. As she performs routine services, a doctor might direct her to perform a blood test for some purpose or to care for a patient who came for an abortion. In line with the example recorded at 2 Kings 5:17-19, she might conclude that since she is not the one with authority who orders a transfusion or performs an abortion, she could carry out human services for a patient. Of course, she still would have to consider her conscience, so as ‘to behave before God with a clear conscience.’—Acts 23:1.
  
  
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  Patient dies as JW paramedic refuses to administer blood product -- thanks, Religious Freedom Act!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  (i realize this topic may have already been addressed so i apologize in advance.).

  no, that's not a real headline but i suppose it could be one here in arkansas -- one of several states in the us that has a religious freedom law on their books.. as i understand it, if i, as a jw paramedic, am ordered to deliver a blood product to my patient, i can refuse to do so based on my religious freedom.

  as a logical consequence, a patient could die.. would paramedic be an occupation be that one of jehovah's witnesses simply cannot accept, knowing fully well that you would be in a likely position to administer blood..

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  Maybe I am just unaware, but when do paramedics give blood?