I hope Harris wins. Not because I think she is a good candidate or agree with her policies. Harris winning and democrats winning the whole government is exactly what American's deserve. They voted for free money and higher inflation whether they realize it or not. They voted for open borders and whatever that brings to this country in the future. In fact the majority of american's still want this. The republican party is so inept they are just as culpable and deserve the outcome this will bring for all of us. Republicans are not conservative, they ramp up spending just like the democrats do. They speak out of both sides of their mouths when they're in power and when they aren't. Since Donald Trump was the best they could produce for a viable presidential candidate, they deserve to lose. They're unable to adapt to the will of the majority with things like abortion. They deserve the collapse of their party. At least with democrats in control of government, the collapse of our system will happen sooner.
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PRESIDENTIAL predictions...let the prognosticators have their say!
by Terry inmy only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.
etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.
) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).
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Biden calls Trump supporters garbage
by moomanchu ina comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???
potus pappy joe to the rescue!!
he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .
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In the end, what does it matter what Biden says, they kicked him out. I have no idea who is advising trump, or if anyone is. They failed miserably yet again. Megyn Kelly summed it up very well. They only appeal to his base, and they push everyone else away. When Trump loses, it's his own fault.
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OPEN LETTER TO THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
by Raimundo ini wanted to share with you a letter that is circulating in some spanish-speaking congregations.
it is about the covid-19 vaccine and the governing body.
there is an english translation that i got today and i put it in the links.
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Why would the governing body care or waste time on something like this? They run a corporation worth who knows what in control of millions of people. This letter is insignificant to them and so is the person. A board of a company worth the same amount of money wouldn’t waste any time caring about things like this. I don’t know why people think their letters matter.
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Jehovah’s Witness deserved the right to refuse blood transfusion, Europe’s rights court rules
by Bangalore injehovah’s witness deserved the right to refuse blood transfusion, europe’s rights court rules'.
https://www.courthousenews.com/jehovahs-witness-deserved-the-right-to-refuse-blood-transfusion-europes-rights-court-rules/.
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This is the right decision. Adults should have the freedom to choose whatever treatment they want or don't want.
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Ages of each user here?
by ukpimo ini'm interested to know the age demographics here.
it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.
it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.
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41, been on here since 2000.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Peace for a Thousand Years—And Beyond! | Simplified (jw.org)
Found this article. Paragraph 12 says death will be no more during the millennial reign which is what I thought I had learned as a kid. Also says the resurrection will happen in the millennial reign which is the opposite of what the bible says.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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@Jeffro
Do you have any article links where they talk about it? I currently can't find much at all about it.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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@Jeffro,
I should have clarified that more, when I was a JW I was under the impression that after Armaggeddon, no one would die of old age or sickness. That was the "people won't die anymore" I was referring to. I remember being taught always that someone that sinned and didn't repent whether during the millennial reign or after that Jehovah would destroy them.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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@Jeffro, Don't JWs believe that for the entire millennial reign, humans will be growing back to perfection? As in there will be no death by old age, sickness and so on? Or do they believe that the millennial reign things will stay the same as they are today? The tree of life appearing after the millennial reign is the only reason the bible indicates anyone won't die.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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TonusOH25 minutes agoI'm more fascinated by the concept of the Tree of Life. The story implies that Adam and Eve were not immortal- they had a finite lifespan. They had to have access to the Tree of Life if they wanted to continue to live. Yahweh is not above the most petty mechanisms of control.
The story does not read well if it is taken literally, as JWs do. A literal reading makes Yahweh something of an extortionist, dangling the Tree of Life in one hand and the Tree of Knowledge in the other. Take from one, lest ye run out of life. Take not from the other, or I shall deny thee access to the first one. Then he looks away as a snake tempts the hopelessly unprepared Eve into breaking god's rules. And finally, he curses humankind and even the planet itself, as punishment.
The story portrays him as a petty thug. A mean and unscrupulous person. A jerk. He creates a world, populates it with a pair of sentient beings, then places traps all around them. Their failure is inevitable, and he knows this. It's part of his plan to... build himself up as a savior????
Nothing about it reflects the actions of a considerate, kind, or caring person. Which makes the attempts at explanation even worse. I cannot accept that a loving being would do any of this. It is incoherent. It makes no sense. An impersonal and uncaring god might spawn a universe and leave it to its devices, leading to a world where suffering happens constantly and happiness is fleeting. Thatgod is more likely to be real than Yahweh.
TonusOH25 minutes agoI'm more fascinated by the concept of the Tree of Life. The story implies that Adam and Eve were not immortal- they had a finite lifespan. They had to have access to the Tree of Life if they wanted to continue to live. Yahweh is not above the most petty mechanisms of control.
The story does not read well if it is taken literally, as JWs do. A literal reading makes Yahweh something of an extortionist, dangling the Tree of Life in one hand and the Tree of Knowledge in the other. Take from one, lest ye run out of life. Take not from the other, or I shall deny thee access to the first one. Then he looks away as a snake tempts the hopelessly unprepared Eve into breaking god's rules. And finally, he curses humankind and even the planet itself, as punishment.
The story portrays him as a petty thug. A mean and unscrupulous person. A jerk. He creates a world, populates it with a pair of sentient beings, then places traps all around them. Their failure is inevitable, and he knows this. It's part of his plan to... build himself up as a savior????
Nothing about it reflects the actions of a considerate, kind, or caring person. Which makes the attempts at explanation even worse. I cannot accept that a loving being would do any of this. It is incoherent. It makes no sense. An impersonal and uncaring god might spawn a universe and leave it to its devices, leading to a world where suffering happens constantly and happiness is fleeting. Thatgod is more likely to be real than Yahweh.”
Speaking of the tree of life. It reappears in Revelation 22. Since the Bible indicates this is the way Adam and Eve would live forever, I conclude that that is the way God in Revelation 21 makes “death no more.” All of this takes place though after Jesus Mellennial reign. JWs believe that people won’t die after Armageddon. The Bible by its account indicates that doesn’t take place for a thousand years.