Posts by SG098

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How would you answer?

by punkofnice in

a friend of mine (who is waking up), recently had the elders do a sheep herding visit.. they were browbeating my friend about attending meetings.

my friend has been ill and unable to attend anyway.. what response would you give to this garbage?.

if we were in a house and it was on fire and we couldnt walk we would have to crawl.. an example of a sister with an iron lung was brought up to show that if shes in this condition, we need to examine ourselves.

SG098

Im guessing you friend still believes in the bible. If they do show them John 6:19-23

19) “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20) Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21) “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 ....23 ) Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks."

So are we required to worship at a temple or kingdom hall? Nope.

What about 'not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together' card the b0rg likes to pull out? Show your friend Matt. 18:20.

Game over, the watchtower cult loses again.

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the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.

by Crazyguy in

my question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.

also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .

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SG098

" .....Not to mention the precarious position any species would be in with only 2 members to repopulate."

Lets not forget that there were 7 animals of most types of species brought on board of the ark.

Genesis 7:2-3

"2 You must take with you every kind of clean animal by sevens, the male and its mate; and of every animal that is not clean just two, the male and its mate; 3 also of the flying creatures of the sky by sevens, male and female, to preserve their offspring alive over all the earth."

To all who believes this story; ive got ocean front property in Arizona I would love to sell you.

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The 7/14 APOSTATE study articles are preparing the rank and file for new light!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

i believe the last two wt studies in the 7/14 wt study articles were planned for this exact time and did not come about by happenstance... the jw cult is preparing the rank and file for some faith altering "new light" to be announced fairly soon, and these scare tactics will do just the trick.... the articles are preparing the rank and file to become apostataphobic, they have the rank and file in such a frenzy, even have them questioning themselves and their own motives for being in the borg!.

with paragraphs like:.

if you hear someone that has doubts or questions about the borg avoid them like the plague, and tell your local elders, but don't judge them!!!.

SG098

Im sure theres going to be some New Light (TM) at the upcoming Investors Conference....darn I mean annual meeting. BTW, has anyone heard rumors or anything about the annual meeting?

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The insensitivity and opportunistic nature of witness at the 9/11 site !

by stuckinarut2 in

i saw an online post with pictures of all the witnessing carts all around the 9/11 site during the anniversary of the tragedy.... im appalled at how opportunistic they are, and how they prey on people in a mourning and vulnerable state!.

apparantly they boast of: "there are 65 carts, with 200 witnesses manning the area... and so far 15 new studies started!".

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SG098

JWs preach'n on 9/11

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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

by Viviane in

recently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.

i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.

i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.

SG098

Viv, you’re attempting to apply scientific method [principles and procedures for the systematic pursuit of knowledge involving the recognition and formulation of a problem, the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses, according to Webster] on the following:

So.. if you reject science, observation and ALL eyewitness testimony is out the window for you.

Without that, what are you left with?

You're left with Blind Faith!!! Which we know is very accurate! (Haha, obviously being sarcastic)

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Emotional Response

by SG098 in

im trying to locate a publication by the b0rg about 'grabbing peoples emotions' or 'getting an emotional response' or 'reaching their heart through emotions' (cant remember how it was worded) when they read watchtower literature or look at pictures.

i think it was fairly recent (past 12 months or so).

i thought it was in a km but i went all the way back to january 2013 and its not in there.

SG098

Hello everyone,

Im trying to locate a publication by the b0rg about 'grabbing peoples emotions' or 'getting an emotional response' or 'reaching their heart through emotions' (cant remember how it was worded) when they read watchtower literature or look at pictures. I think it was fairly recent (past 12 months or so). I thought it was in a KM but I went all the way back to January 2013 and its not in there. Maybe it was a letter read to the R&F at the service meeting?

I've searched quite a bit, cant find it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE

by LennaB in

meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.

(astrology, racism, ect.

) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.

SG098

How many times does it take for a prophet who speaks in the name of Jehovah to become a false prophet?

The answer is simple, it only takes one false prophecy. See Deut. 18:18-22

The watchtower has claimed to be a prophet and has failed numerous times in their predictions. As Deut. 18 says, do not fear them.....so do not fear the watchtower, they are not gods channel.

Im sure you know but if not, check out jwfacts.com

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An important message from a PRACTICING Jehovah's witness

by Sparks in

jw
friends

hi, i am also a practicing jehovah's witness and very proud of it,to say the very-very least..!

i am a middle-aged man with many decades of being a witness of jehovah god in england.. this important letter is personally to you, just as many of the bible's 88 letters are to be taken personal by you the reader.

i am writing to you to urge you to take stock of your life, think what your future holds for you.

SG098

I find it ironic that sparks hasn't even come on here to respond to at least 1 comment. I guess he's "a coward or full of hate...for people."

Hey sparks, in Matthew 24:9 who said, "you will be persecuted on the account of my name"?

Was it Jehovah or Jesus that said that?

Also, you're basing your entire argument off a book that you think most of us still believe. The bible is a human creation and has many contradictions. Sparks, do you even know how the bible was formed and canonized?

Why does Jehovah create evil in Isaiah 45:7? I thought Jehovah was righteous and satan was evil?

Why does Jehovah give his blessing on killing everyone in a city except for virgin girls in Numbers ch. 31? Think of this for a second, what if the Muslims are the true religion and Allah tells the Muslims to come to your town and kill you and your family but if you have a virgin daughter keep her alive. Im sure you're a good person sparks, you would think the Muslim god was wicked for killing everyone...even good people...but keeping alive the virgins and sometimes the animals adds to how evil a god would be to allow that and bless that.

Just stop and think for once sparks.

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JEHOVAH WITNESS PEDOPHILE COVER-UP ON CNN SUNDAY NIGHT! FREDRICK MCLEAN!

by BucketShopBill in

hi everyone, this has been what i have waited for, fredrick mclean is up next on cnn's "most wanted" and "hunted show", so far two of their topics are dead!.

last sunday's "the hunt" blew his head off monday morning!

let's hope cnn get's jehovah witness fredrick mclean!

SG098

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/21919076#21919076

Can somone put this video on YouTube so that it can be watched with a mobile device? Its a flash video on the nbc website which most mobile phones cant stream.

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reading COC for the first time

by This is my tigersuit in

SG098

Welcome Tigersuit! And welcome to reality! The watchtower mindset is the matrix, it is not real, and its not healthy. So happy you and your wife are doing this together. Some of us are not as lucky to have our spouses see the lies of watchtower.

Whats always amazed me is most JWs do not realize that Jesus is not the mediator of the great crowd. According to the organization Jesus is only mediator for the 144,000. This is a blatant contradiction and twist of scripture.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mediator.php

Reason I bring up this random point is because research is key to leaving and never looking back. Glad to have you here. Im sure as an elder you have some pretty interesting stories to share.