@Pete: I thought I edited before anyone saw; I was quite detailed and had second thoughts about putting all that out there. I appreciate your response, perspective, and ideas, especially on making phone calls.
I hear you on the "negative thoughts" thing. As you can imagine I'm pretty stressed coming down to the line.
@everyone: Thanks for your input, thoughts, and suggestions.
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Yeah, my parents plan to will everything to this parasitic organization and forsake their seed
by Phaedra inyeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..
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Being a parent myself, i find it mind boggling that parents would rather give their financial possesions to a multi-million dollar corporation, that perverts the meanings of Christian love, than their OWN children. The kicker too is, how many JW's were born in, and raised by the WTS from infancy. Due to this being the case their parents, most of the time, never directed them towards college, or even just setting up ANY kind of stability financially for their future. To, then, on top of it NOT will anything to these same children, is such a slap in the face, it could almost be considered ABUSE.
So, you raise your children in a dooms day cult. You indoctrinate them from infancy thru fear and manipulation. You discourage them from any financial planning, further education, and "skills" to survive in this real world , basically leaving them "helpless". Then at your twilight years, instead of, ATLEAST making up for it, by leaving them SOMETHING/ANYTHING, that could help them survive this world that they prevented them from preparing for in the first place, they just leave you "high and dry". Its criminal, and so angering, to me, that this happens. The WTS doesnt deserve this money, they deserve to be held accountable, instead. Their time is coming, though. Their reckoning is coming. . . . . .
Dunedain: That's exactly what I wanted to convey. It is mind-boggling: I could have written every bit of your post as it applies to my life situation as a raised-in from age 3.
I've been so diligent in not falling into a poor me trap, but it really does fly in the face of taking care of one's own and is frustrating. Do either of them owe me anything? No. But as they claim to be part of an organization based on love and concern for the welfare of others, I can't help but keep tripping over the hypocrisy.
Having a blind spot is even easier for them when their children are unbelieving. After all, why help anyone who will be destroyed soon?
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Is this a BEAUTIFUL STORY--or what?
by Terry inis this a beautiful story, or what?.
act one________.
now in an ordinary romance of the golden hollywood era, the boy goes off to war while the young lady waits nervously for his safe return.in a cary grant, debra kerr movie, the two vow to meet after a certain period of time and tragic circumstances intervene.. in my story, the young man is a conscientious objector who goes to prison instead of off to the vietnam war.
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Great story, Terry.
I recently read that when we're gone, our lives are just another story.
It's great to see we can still have fun surprises along the way.
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Yeah, my parents plan to will everything to this parasitic organization and forsake their seed
by Phaedra inyeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..
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Fellow feelers,
Thanks for your support. All of your comments are appreciated.
As you can see I was having a really frustrating moment when I posted. Twice last night I used a word on the board that I never have (sorry Simon). Thanksgiving today with no family who is stuck in this cult and life in general has me on the brink.
To bring you up to speed: Both my parents have been 'serving where the need is great' for the last 20 years. I know they planned on the 'end' happening much sooner... than where they currently find themselves. Well we know it's not happening, but they still cling to the fantasy.
So now, rounding the corner of 80, they both are having their fair share of health problems and real end of life conversations are on the table. And yet they are both as active as can be, mom concerned about getting hours in.A couple of responses:
JWdaughter: "They might well be ill or debilitated for years before dying. Is the org going to care for them?"
Exactly, no. My father has been the PO for years. I'm sure when he can't do another theocratic thing he won't get even a 'thank you for your service' card. His life is full of being an elder for a small 30-40 publisher cong, and it's bittersweet because he has purpose and he's probably great to the friends. But unlike a real job, he won't get anything back for his service, nor taken care of in any way. The society loves people like this, who give their lives in obedience to their "demands", meaning the manipulative stories in the publications about people just the same giving up things in this world for 'blessings' from Jehovah.
Dunedain: If you dont mind me asking, how do you know this? Did they come right out and actually tell you this?
I know because I had an awkward conversation with my mother about it. As they are getting up in years with health issues and live states away, I wanted to find out if they had a plan in place, as I am their youngest and they have given me power of attorney in the past.
Sail Away: Yeah it's the way cults roles, and I'm finally feeling the anger I've repressed for so many years. They have been trained well by this organization to give all their time, energy, and material belongings they have when they are finally 'conscious of nothing at all.' -
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Reasons for doubting.
by New day insomebody mentioned in a recent topic that they had a conversation with a former elder whose breaking point was when the overlapping generation was highlighted in recent times and how he would never serve again until somebody gave him a scriptural reason to believe it.
i am in a similar position.
i have gone in the last 18 months from taking the wt study, leading fs groups, and doing talks on the mtngs to doing almost nothing, as i resigned a little over a year ago as an elder due to a combination of family responsibilities and huge doubts.
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I am no longer a believer in anything unless I experience proof. Whimsical ideas don't do it for me no more, no matter how peace-loving and god-seeking I am.
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Yeah, my parents plan to will everything to this parasitic organization and forsake their seed
by Phaedra inyeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..
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Yeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.
Never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.
Fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think God will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed.
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I put up lights this year
by Zoos ini have always wanted to do that.. nothing special.
in fact, i have learned i'm not very good at it.
i have many talents.
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Putting up lights means much more than putting up lights. Take back your life from this parasitic organization who demands your life force and gives nothing in return.
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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion
by thankyou ini'm non-jw.. been following this forum.
most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.
i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.
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Don't love him, but respect him for the bold move that jostled me out of compliance with a parasitic organization. Thanks, Ray. -
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Are JWs trying to make dysfunctional kids and destroy their ability to live normal lives?
by C0ntr013r inare jws trying to make dysfunctional kids that wont "fit" in normal society so they will "return to jehovah"?
because there have been many stories about young people who have been out in the world only to find how bad it was and how correct the org was.. a good jw kid with "good" jw parents will have many big issues, some examples:.
fear of demons (fear, misfit).
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As a dysfunctional adult post-jw, trying to correct the damage of the first 30 years of my life, I can say they do a great job.