Great story, Terry.
I recently read that when we're gone, our lives are just another story.
It's great to see we can still have fun surprises along the way.
is this a beautiful story, or what?.
act one________.
now in an ordinary romance of the golden hollywood era, the boy goes off to war while the young lady waits nervously for his safe return.in a cary grant, debra kerr movie, the two vow to meet after a certain period of time and tragic circumstances intervene.. in my story, the young man is a conscientious objector who goes to prison instead of off to the vietnam war.
Great story, Terry.
I recently read that when we're gone, our lives are just another story.
It's great to see we can still have fun surprises along the way.
yeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..
Fellow feelers,
Thanks for your support. All of your comments are appreciated.
As you can see I was having a really frustrating moment when I posted. Twice last night I used a word on the board that I never have (sorry Simon). Thanksgiving today with no family who is stuck in this cult and life in general has me on the brink.
To bring you up to speed: Both my parents have been 'serving where the need is great' for the last 20 years. I know they planned on the 'end' happening much sooner... than where they currently find themselves. Well we know it's not happening, but they still cling to the fantasy.
So now, rounding the corner of 80, they both are having their fair share of health problems and real end of life conversations are on the table. And yet they are both as active as can be, mom concerned about getting hours in.
A couple of responses:
JWdaughter: "They might well be ill or debilitated for years before dying. Is the org going to care for them?"
Exactly, no. My father has been the PO for years. I'm sure when he can't do another theocratic thing he won't get even a 'thank you for your service' card. His life is full of being an elder for a small 30-40 publisher cong, and it's bittersweet because he has purpose and he's probably great to the friends. But unlike a real job, he won't get anything back for his service, nor taken care of in any way. The society loves people like this, who give their lives in obedience to their "demands", meaning the manipulative stories in the publications about people just the same giving up things in this world for 'blessings' from Jehovah.
Dunedain: If you dont mind me asking, how do you know this? Did they come right out and actually tell you this?
I know because I had an awkward conversation with my mother about it. As they are getting up in years with health issues and live states away, I wanted to find out if they had a plan in place, as I am their youngest and they have given me power of attorney in the past.
Sail Away: Yeah it's the way cults roles, and I'm finally feeling the anger I've repressed for so many years. They have been trained well by this organization to give all their time, energy, and material belongings they have when they are finally 'conscious of nothing at all.'
somebody mentioned in a recent topic that they had a conversation with a former elder whose breaking point was when the overlapping generation was highlighted in recent times and how he would never serve again until somebody gave him a scriptural reason to believe it.
i am in a similar position.
i have gone in the last 18 months from taking the wt study, leading fs groups, and doing talks on the mtngs to doing almost nothing, as i resigned a little over a year ago as an elder due to a combination of family responsibilities and huge doubts.
I am no longer a believer in anything unless I experience proof. Whimsical ideas don't do it for me no more, no matter how peace-loving and god-seeking I am.
yeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..
Yeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.
Never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.
Fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think God will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed.
i have always wanted to do that.. nothing special.
in fact, i have learned i'm not very good at it.
i have many talents.
Putting up lights means much more than putting up lights. Take back your life from this parasitic organization who demands your life force and gives nothing in return.
i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.
most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.
i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.
are jws trying to make dysfunctional kids that wont "fit" in normal society so they will "return to jehovah"?
because there have been many stories about young people who have been out in the world only to find how bad it was and how correct the org was.. a good jw kid with "good" jw parents will have many big issues, some examples:.
fear of demons (fear, misfit).
here's mine: i'm 14 years old, just baptised and a old boy married elder of about 60 odd comes up to me and says " ooooooooooh!
"purrpurr"!
your getting such a lovely figure on you!
Really the whole mindset of JWs is twisted. Spent lots of time in car groups where it seemed the only way to cope with the ongoing rejection was to visualize the just desserts of householders at Armageddon. Taking their nice houses after the fact seemed passive aggressive, and when you believe you're supposed to be the happiest people in the world, the behavior makes sense.
Not creepy, but the elder who made a point of telling us about the pagan roots of knotted pretzels... and to be sure we broke them before eating them (=bad if we didn't). Bet he didn't touch a fortune cookie with a ten-foot pole.
I still can't look at pretzels like a normal person.
i wonder how many of us here hold on to this meeting place out of "loneliness.
could it be that we harbor feelings of "abandonment" and "loneliness" from being left cold and dry by the wt people and our families?
perhaps we do have a need to reach out to people with similar experiences.
It's connection... of so many kinds.
For those with family in, it's a unique connection to keep some sanity.
i operate a 31 restaurant franchise.
it is no small task.
the franchise is a well known american company and a rapidly growing one.