Incidently, converts, into the JW fold from Islam, are almost non-existent. One reason being that in the 100 odd years of the JW faith, the slave hasn't found the knowhow or intelligence to conclusively disprove the Quran. The first reason being that C D is a vital part of an Islamists' mental makeup. The second - they are smarter apologists than Christians. Most followers of Islam, as in all cults, are brain washed like the JW's . There is a muslim collegue of mine, whose mother-in-law was told that the Koran speaks about men being given 72 virgins as a reward for leading a life based on the Quran. She refuses to believe, saying the Shias have distorted the meaning of the verse. Similarly when told that the Koran specifically states that" if someone tells you JC is the son of god, do not believe him he is a liar", she said the same thing. She was of the view that, " it was common practice in those days", when told, her prophet was a pedophile! Cognitive dissonance is not endemic to the JW's religion alone. To come to the point, as some have mentioned , the GB don't want their collective annointed ass travelling on a stick of c4- or whatever propellent being used by our Islamist fundamentalists - into oblivion . Muslim nations as a rule don't pay much attention to the JW's preaching. The JW population in Pakistan ( less than 500) and Bangladesh ( less than 200) , to cite two examples, are made up of converts from Christian denominational churches. Even India, which has less than 40,000 JW's, with apopulation of almost 2 billion ( don't believe the 1.2 billion official number), has less than 10 muslims who have converted to JW. Figures doesn't it . Two cults( sorry ! I spelt it wrong) trying to penentrate each other.
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Not on JW.org: Has the Watchtower or Awake! ever publicly condemed Radical Islam like they do Christiandom ?
by Balaamsass2 ini have read a pile of vitrol over the years about the pope and "false" religious leaders of every variety.
why not islam ?
have i missed a more recent awake!
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If you thought Tony Moris the Third was extreme, wait till you hear this other GB member!
by Island Man inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba&list=uus0vqkpnsxult0gsz6ahpta.
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Holy Crap! Whey da heck Dis Nigga dun get his medical deegreee? Dats some reel annointed crazy shit he dishin out dere . I sure gotta go an get me som gill-e-ed minestree school eddicashun. Dey givin out Pee-haich-dees in dung-hole punchin! Herd is fust to score a gee-nee-ass-hole-in one!!
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Hello
by lurkernomore ini thought it was high time to introduce myself (without my name of course).
as my name would suggest i have been reading your intriguing post, thoughts and discussions for some time now.
around 3/4 months to be exact.. i guess to start with it would seem fitting to give a little background on my current situation.. i'm a born-in, but have over the last few years found that through a number of varying occurences, (some of which i may discuss in future posts) that my 'zeal' has gone from regular field service and meetings to no service in over a year and very sporadic meeting attendance.
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Welcome to the real world! Enjoy the best of the rest of your life!
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Do You Support Illegal Aliens Coming Into The USA As They Have This Past Year?
by minimus ini think it's hurting the country..
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Sam...24 .You bet . I'm in complete agreement with you.
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Index of my Watchtower Doctrine Threads
by cofty ini just wanted to put links to my watchtower threads all in the same place for my own benefit and future reference.. i wrote these 4 articles almost 20 years ago just after i left the watchtower and before i had encountered any ex-jw books or websites.
they were all based on original research of old wt publications and the nwt bible.. my explanation of why they got it wrong about blood using only the nwt.... i still think this line of reasoning is devastating to the blood doctrine.
i have yet to hear a rational response.. the gospel contrasted with the watchtower doctrine of the ransom.... i wrote this when i was an uber-evangelical.
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Thanks for the info. and the exhaustive research that went into it.
Archived for future reference.
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TUTORIAL: Proving the GB and Watch Tower is guilty
by Terry inq: are you willing to admit the gb and the wts is wrong if the facts go against them?.
proof text.
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Nicely done Terry. Archived for future reference.
Thanks much.
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Do You Support Illegal Aliens Coming Into The USA As They Have This Past Year?
by minimus ini think it's hurting the country..
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Legal immigrants are backlogged 8-15 years. These people are contributing to American society, paying their taxes, playing by the book yet cannot get a g-card despite having lived here for 10years or more! Legally. They were invited into the country by the U.S govt. One reason is that each renewal of their EAD's and travel documents fetches the USCIS around 1300 bucks. ( $750 for an EAD, and $500 for a travel doc.) Multiply that by about 1 million legal immigrants, from China , India and Mexico ( three countries whose immigrant lists are retrogressed 5 years or more ) and it is easy to see why. In addition to paying taxes they have to shell out 1300+ dollars every two years.
Yet nobody has even mentioned this anywhere. Meanwhile the Left is bending over backwards to grant amnesty to 20 million + illegals. So, is the moneys from legal aliens being used to fund the needs of the illegals?
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Do You Support Illegal Aliens Coming Into The USA As They Have This Past Year?
by minimus ini think it's hurting the country..
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Somebody up there is getting paid off. A country that can walk into Afganistan, and almost wipe out Al Quiada, can't stop drug cartels and gangland members? The problem doesn't lie with illegals. It lies with the politicians. IMO a lot of people are getting a cut from the action. If I remember correctly, four or five years ago, a number of border patrol personnel were fired for being involved in a racket letting in illegals for cash. According to some sources- reliable because they are illegals themselves- a COYOTE gets around 5000+ for each customer. That money is paid up and down the line.
IMO a percentage goes to he cartels and the rest, no doubt, to corrupt cops/border patrol personnel and even more corrupt politicians. Why can't the immigration policy be fixed? Obviously, politicians and other power brokers do not want it fixed, since they have vested interests. The immigration bill tabled by the Senate, is supposedly, full of loopholes, . Yet we haven't heard why. Nor have we an alternative -as promised by them - to the one languishing in the House. RESULT : Stalemate and the usual pol. rhetoric while the border crisis keeps escalating.
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Reunion: Dog Passes Out From Overwhelming Excitement!!!!!!
by rip van winkle ineven grumpy cat would smile :).
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/dog-faints-from-overwhelming-joy-upon-reuniting-with-owner-after-two-years-9630441.html.
a pet dog appeared to faint from overwhelming joy after being reunited with a family member after two years.. rebecca ehalt had been living and working in slovenia.
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The little chap couldn't help it. Being indoctrinated with JW dogma , it saw the mistress and was overwhelmed by the promised "Resurrection" !!!
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Losing Faith in Faith..
by Dis-Member ini came across this lecture at 3am not being able to sleep by dan baker.
it details his transition from christian fundamentalist to atheist and the various shades in-between.
he realises that every denomination of christian can open the bible and prove to you that they have the right interpretation and everyone else is wrong.
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The Bible is a book created by a single race of people in the middle east, for themselves. It was their claim -with "Miracles" or "Miraculous occurances", experienced by their own kind - that access to the "one and only true "god" was through their faith alone. Christianity, was an extention of this race's beliefs to other races and cultures, in an effort to indoctrinate them into the faith, which, till a particular point of time in their history, remained exclusive to their race alone.
By another extention, 600 years later, another race of people claimed exclusive angelic connection to the "true god" and established "true religion" in the Arabian peninsula,while denouncing the faith of their fellow residents in the neighbouring land.
About 1200 hundred years later , by yet another extention, another race of people, through direct , angelic, golden edictal connection to the "true god" established their "true "religion in what is the state of Utah today.
In our time, it could be compared to the the people of one particular country-USA's - claims of UFO sightings and "alien landings". Or to claims by other races of people in India , Sri Lanka, all countries in Africa ,S .America and the island countries of being able to speak with the dead, conjouring up spirits etc. etc.
One common line runs through all of this. Mere hearsay with no concrete scientific evidence to back up whatever their claims are. In fact, when examined minutely under the scanner of science, all these claims become pieces of fiction.