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  Who is The Lord?

  by JW Answers in

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  2. beliefs

  the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

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  Onager

  JW Answers, you appear to be trying to save people from the burning building that is the JW organisation by inviting them to jump into your dumpster fire.
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  God, Religion and Semantics

  by Onager in

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  there is a slight possibility of one of my jw relatives coming to have a read of this forum, which has made me really excited and endlessly hopeful, but also worried that they might read some of my angry comments from back in the day and throw their hands up in horror.

  i've also been thinking about the book by christopher hitchens "god is not great" recently and i think there are similar defences to be made for both.. there is a topic that i started called jehovah god is not real and there are also comments that i have made where i have said that jehovah god is cruel, stupid or even evil.

  i appreciate that this sounds like a personal attack on god, just as hitchens' book "god is not great", sounds like an attack on god, but the truth is that they're not.. the title of hitchen's book: "god is not great" is (deliberately) a negation of the islamic phrase allahu akbar "god is greatest" and my topic on this forum called "jehovah god is not real", was in direct response to another poster's topic "jehovah god is real".

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  There is a slight possibility of one of my JW relatives coming to have a read of this forum, which has made me really excited and endlessly hopeful, but also worried that they might read some of my angry comments from back in the day and throw their hands up in horror. I've also been thinking about the book by Christopher Hitchens "God is not Great" recently and I think there are similar defences to be made for both.

  There is a topic that I started called Jehovah God is not Real and there are also comments that I have made where I have said that Jehovah God is cruel, stupid or even evil. I appreciate that this sounds like a personal attack on God, just as Hitchens' book "God is not Great", sounds like an attack on God, but the truth is that they're not.

  The title of Hitchen's book: "God is not Great" is (deliberately) a negation of the Islamic phrase Allahu Akbar "God is Greatest" and my topic on this forum called "Jehovah God is not Real", was in direct response to another poster's topic "Jehovah God is Real". In both cases it is not the God which is being attacked, but the claim about God.

  Likewise, when I say something like "Jehovah God is stupid", I am not actually saying anything about God. After all, as an atheist, it would be weird for me to attribute any quality to a deity. What I am saying is that the believer's claim, if true, would mean that the God they are proposing is dumb.

  This might sound like hair splitting semantics, but it's an important distinction. All Gods, and all information about their qualities and actions, are claims made by people. There is not one single God, Thor, Vishnu, Jehovah or whomever, for which there is a single piece of evidence which does not come second hand from a human being.

  I don't know if God exists, I'd really rather like it if they did and there was some kind of purpose to this whole business, but I do know that every story of a personified deity is disproved either by internal inconsistencies in the claims, a lack of evidence or both.
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  The Strange Case of Don Decker on Unsolved Mysteries

  by Tenacious in

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  2. current

  i know many members on this forum no longer believe in the christian god of the bible.

  and we should all be respectful of each other's beliefs.

  no one should be vilified for not believing or vice-versa.. though we all share one thing in common and that's falling victims to the vermin governing idiots.. going back thousands of years, our planet has experienced strange occurrences with many falling under the paranormal umbrella.

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  What is your opinion of the strange things that happened to this man named Don Decker?

  My opinion is that none of the events happened as stated. My opinion is primarily based on asking "Why?".

  Why, if demons are real, would they act in this way? Primarily, why would they manifest around one man, for a few days in 1983? Why not appear every day to thousands of people? If crucifixes have an effect on demons why don't we see fewer incidents of bad things happening to people who wear them? Why "Rain"??
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  Please tell me I wasn't the only PIMO elder to do this...

  by Solzhenitsyn in

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  2. experiences

  so a recent post by a troller linked to a youtube vid of the midweek meeting stream: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5119948566298624/great-announcement.

  just assuming everyone knows that this is the congregation in pt.

  richie, fl that wt uses for all the shut ins approved for logging into www.stream.jw.org with the privilege of getting their meetings at home.

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  Now we have TIMO ,PIMO ,PIMI ,so I suppose we should also have TIMI ,is that it ? all I have to remember ? or is some bright spark going to come up with another brainwave

  TTFN - Totally Trapped For Now
  

  WYSIWYG - When Youth Saw it Was Yammering Garbage

  ROFL - Reaching Out For Life

  TMNT - Trapped Mentally Not Totally (Also Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

  ... Ok. I'm done now.
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  Favourite New Film

  by jhine in

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  2. entertainment

  l recently went to watch green book , which l thought was excellent , it had everything , it took me though the whole range of emotions , from anger to joy , laughing then wanting to cry .

  the quiet dignity of dr shirley mixed with volatile nature of tony lipp and seeing their emerging friendship was wonderful .

  what really shook me was that these attitudes existed in my lifetime , not that long ago .

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  I went to see Lego Movie 2 on the weekend. Very good, highly recommended. Of course the £63 for seats was a kick in the fruit. (3 adults, 2 kids).
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  Just peeking in for a bit...

  by Jidders in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i rather apprehensively would like to say hello.. i've been raised somewhat in the truth,one of my parents is rather rather strong in the beliefs but could honestly be considered pomi with how active they are and their side of the family comes from a line of witnesses, the other parent was but faded a long time ago.

  as such i was taught quite a bit of jw teachings between family and off and on again bible studies.

  recently i had a serious emotional break down over a few months after said pomi parent had advised me that they would not attend my wedding should that day come (i also had recieved a text from my bible teacher i hadnt heard from in a year or two giving a scripture) and it sorta all sank on me that my activity over the last few years was not really jw material.

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  Whatever else you do... keep peeking! :)

  Truth is truth. You can't change it, you can't break it. You can chuck it into a bucket of crap and it'll come out shining. On the other hand, you can't even shine a light on a lie without it collapsing.

  If anyone tells you that their truth needs protecting then they have lies not truth.
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  Why would Satan give a rats ass about jehovahs witnesses?

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we know the answer but for the sake of discussion.

  so satan is the ruler of the world and he is hellbent on destroying gods people, why?

  satan controls 99.9 % of the world except for one little obscure religious group that no one pays any attention to.

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  Why would Satan give a rats ass about jehovahs witnesses?

  Because it's an important part of the mythic narrative.
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  Political Correctness and Censorship / Banning Books

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  banned books?censorship?.

  let’s say you live in a land where the rule is: you can’t offend anyone.okay, fair enough.

  let’s take a look at what follows (implicit in this rule).. if you are speaking to 10 people, is it okay to offend 1 in 10?

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  How many reasons for offence in this list could be applied to the bible?
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  Demon Posessed Rock Bands I couldn’t listen to

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  kiss.

  steve miller band (abracadabra).

  eagles.

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  Onager

  I've said it here before, but I saw Iron Maiden at Twickenham rugby stadium, the big district assembly venue in the UK.

  That was a pretty good gig! :)
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  The stuff JWs get right

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since today there is a post about jws and science i thought it right to throw them a bone and see if they have anything right:.

  1. round earth (lol).

  2. old universe (13.7 billion years).

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  Onager

  Why would this be in any way a good thing?

  A man could get everything right with all his beliefs, the origin of species, the existence of god, everything, but if he also believes that it's ok to murder people because he's "special", then he is a wholly bad person.

  The JW organisation has killed people and ruined lives with their policies. It doesn't matter what they've got right, it's what they've got wrong that defines them.