Posts by Shakita

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Who Gives a Shyte if Russell was a Freemason or not?

by LittleToe in

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a poll, inspired by gumby.... one vote here for not giving a shyte..

Shakita

I don't care if Russell wore a smock and chanted: "I'M A FREEMASON AND I'M OK, I WORK ALL NIGHT AND I WORK ALL DAY." All of this oooeee, oooeee crapola that claims Russell was a freemason just is not important. It's just a way of saying that Russell was a freemason and thus was akin to the devil so how could you ever trust him. Reminds me of opposing politicians during November elections. Don't vote for candidate so-and-so, he WORKS FOR THE DEVIL. Bwahahahahahahaha! Did I mention that I don't give a shyte?

Mr. Shakita

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The GB actually communicate with the Annointed from the Heavens

by gumby in

ya think i'm kiddin ye bastards?.

i wonder if the governing body actually hear the voices of the resurrected annointed ones.

does the heavenly bride of christ whisper, or talk normal, or do they do it by "silent suggestion" in which they move them to a conclusion or answer so they'll all agree.. what about when they have to vote on things cuz they can't agree?.

Shakita

"This suggests that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today".

C'mon Gumby. You know there are cell towers in heaven now. Those anointed blokes have the cell numbers of their dead, but not really dead brethren. Ya gotta have connections to speak with the not really dead, dead people. These are modern times man.

Mr. Shakita

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For 'Carmel' Genesis 1 and John 1

by Nate Merit in

the beginning

1 in the beginning the flying spaghetti monster created the heavens and the earth.

4 the flying spaghetti monster saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.

Shakita

Thanks for clearing that up Nate. I just knew that the Flying Spaghetti Monster was responsible for all us peeps and the world and all that. The Holy Sprite already told me what you have revealed to us. It's great to have the Holy Sprite around. Especially when you are thirsty.

Mr. Shakita

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WT Dec 1st 2005, calls us "pests" to be exterminated

by BluesBrother in

ok, if somebody has commented on this article before, well i guess i missed it.

this really got my goat though .

it really plumbs the depths of sadistic, heartless, thinking .

Shakita

Calling fellow humans "pests" to be "eliminated" (exterminated) is about as low as any group can go. This was Hitler's philosophy. I wish detriment to anybody who would associate with this group.

Hi Gary. That is an excellent point. I was thinking along those same lines when I read how the WT views opposers or anyone that is not a JW as a pest that needs to be exterminated. I can't believe how despicable that statement is. Hitler wanted to create his master race by eliminating or exterminating those pests that didn't fit his definition of human beings. Those races that were the most impure were considered to be the closest to the apes.

You WT leaders are disgusting. You claim that Christ is your master and yet you call for the extermination of those persons that disagree with you and refer to these human beings as pests to be exterminated. Are you missing something WT leaders? You are just as murderous as the mass murderer Hitler who you love to condemn. Hitler wanted to murder all those persons that didn't fit into his idea of the perfect human. What has escaped your notice, oh WT gods, is that you want the same pure race of only Jehovah's Witnesses, except that you won't murder to get your perfect race. The God that you serve will gladly do it for you.

Mr. Shakita

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MAJOR SHUNNING ARTICLE SPOKESMAN REVIEW WASHINGTON

by DannyHaszard in

monday thoughts

the spokesman review, wa - 45 minutes ago .

... before getting to the sports section, i read every word of virginia de leon's piece about disfellowshipped jehovah's witnesses cut off by faith, and i'm ...

Shakita

Michael Graham, one of five elders at the Davenport Kingdom Hall, declined to divulge the exact reason for the disfellowshipping, only to note that Joel Jahn refused to participate in the judicial committee's meetings. "The shunning is his choice, not ours," said Graham, who was baptized a Witness in 1973. "He's the one who walked down this path with his eyes wide open."

You have got to be kidding me Michael Graham. Joel Jahn was disfellowshipped for daring to disagree with the WT. He refused to attend the judicial meeting because the die was already cast. To attend this farce would have served no purpose.

So, Michael Graham, Joel Jahn's sin was to grow his own brain and find out that the things that the WT was teaching him was wrong. When he discovered this fact and dared to share this with others then the WT police went into action. No one dares defy the self appointed FDS and gets away with it.

You claim Michael Graham, that you have freedom of speech and that your religion has fought to ensure freedom of speech, but you deny that same inalienable right towards members of your own religion. This issue is simply about the right of individuals to use their God given brains to examine the Bible and make a decision about how they are going to react to it without being coerced or threatened to accept the WT's line of reasoning or else face shunning.

You and your WT God Michael Graham are the ones that have gone down this path with your eyes wide open. You are the ones that have denied freedom of speech to your members. You and your religion, with your eyes wide open, have decided that you have the right to destroy family ties. You and your religion, with your eyes wide open, have decided to shun those that simply disagree with how the Bible should be interpreted and then you slanderously accuse those that dare to disagree with you as sinners. Thus, the members of the congregation thinks that the "offender" has truly committed a sin.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself, but doubtless, you are proud of yourself. I hope that more and more people will find out about the fraud that the WT has perpetrated and will free themselves of the WT's shackles.

Mr. Shakita

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Boing Boing: Awesomely weird Jehovah's Witness art

by DannyHaszard in

new high ranking on web index well done page goodie graphics and cute commentary,they did quotes lawsuit 2 weeks ago.

click the link in link sub page when you get in.

boing boing: awesomely weird jehovah's witness art

Shakita

We all know that cats are evil. That nasty kitty is getting what it deserves. It probably barfed up too many hair balls and missed the litter box too many times. This is what happens to rebellious, apostate kitties. Meow!!!!!!

Mr. Shakita

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WT Blames Poor JW for any suffering they exp

by JT in

*** w98 8/15 p. 17 strengthening our confidence in gods righteousness ***.

feelings of having suffered needlessly.

6 in the past, some witnesses have suffered for refusing to share in an activity that their conscience now might permit.

Shakita

*** w98 8/15 p. 17 Strengthening Our Confidence in God’s Righteousness ***

Feelings of Having Suffered Needlessly

6 In the past, some Witnesses have suffered for refusing to share in an activity that their conscience now might permit. For example, this might have been their choice years ago as to certain types of civilian service.

A brother might now feel that he could conscientiously perform such without overstepping his Christian neutrality regarding the present system of things.

7 Was it unrighteous on Jehovah’s part to allow him to suffer for rejecting what he now might do

Great thoughts as always JT! I remember how pissed I was when this article came out. The only thing that I can say is that I was dumbstruck. And I was truly dumb for listening to the WT drivel. What is galling is that they make the statement that it was the individual Witnesses conscience that was too strict and that in hindsight has caused the Witness grief and the belief that he had suffered needlessly.

Oh, WT. What the hell are you talking about? You are the most arrogant, ignorant, despicable SOB's on the planet. The individual Witnesses were not following the dictates of their consciences. They were following the dictates of your conscience at the threat of disfellowshipping if they didn't comply. Oops! I guess you already knew this, you WT hucksters. You beat your adherents into submission so that even when you were in the wrong, you weren't in the wrong. It was those stupid WItness adherents of yours that listened to you implicitly. You dummies! Didn't you know that when we told you to listen to us that we were just foolin?' When you Witness drones believed that you were following the dictates of the WT's conscience you were actually following the dictates of your own conscience.

Now listen up all you WT kiddies. When we screw up it is always your fault because you shouldn't have listened to us. You should listen to us except when you shouldn't listen to us and regardless, it is always your fault. You are to blame. So, you must listen to us and not listen to us at the same time and we want you to enjoy it when we speak out both sides of our mouth. The WT conscience is really your conscience except when we are wrong and you suffer for doing what we said was God's direction and then it was really your conscience all along. Do you get it! A child could understand it. Now stop whining all you WT drones and listen to us when we are right and when we are wrong. All of you WT adherents that are suffering for listening to us are getting what you deserve. Now be a good little WT slave and enjoy it when you are being beaten to a pulp and repeat this mantra: "I am wrong, I am wrong, I am always wrong, even when I am in the right." Now be a good little Witness and continue in your self flagellation.

Mr. Shakita

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Donald Duck and Jehovah (from the book "Jehovah Unmasked")

by JamesThomas in

ll of us grew up watching and enjoying the antics of.

donald duck.

we laughed as he slowly but surely lost.

Shakita

Rex,

I certainly agree that evil people need to face God's judgment. I am all for the execution of all murderers, rapists, pedophiles, mobsters, gang members, terrorists, etc. These people have made it miserable for the average person that just wants to live their lives without being terrorized by people of their ilk. I am not one of those warm, fuzzy, touchy-feely types that thinks that God should never use his power to execute the wicked.

What I object to is God killing peoples en masse because they happen to be of a particular ethnic group or because they happen to be of a particular culture or of a particular religion. I have no problem with your argument concerning the Amorites that harassed the Israelites and wouldn't let them pass by peaceably over their land. I have no problem with certain peoples being executed because they were involved with or were promoting child sacrifice or pedophilia or some other disgusting practice. The problem I have is that every last person in some of the cities that were defeated by the Israelites was executed without the benefit of a court of law that would determine the guilt or innocence of each individual. If God is a God of justice, then certainly it wouldn't be a problem for him to see to it that the evidence condemning certain people for their disgusting practices would be made publicly available.

What I am concerned about is that the God of the Old Testament is promoting genocide. Rather than go through the process of weeding out the truly guilty and punishing them appropriately, the God of the Old Testament couldn't be bothered with such a nuisance. Just kill them all and it would be so much easier for the Israelites. I am aware of the practices of the Canaanites and I agree that to just let them practice their perverted religion without taking action in some way would influence the Israelites to take up some of those practices also. Unfortunately, time and again the Israelites fell into the disgusting practice of child sacrifice and the ritualistic sex worship of males and females at the temple. I would call that legalized prostitution. I can see why a clean God would be disgusted with the Israelites mouthing that they loved God and yet showed by their actions that they were doing the complete opposite.

As to your reasoning that God decreed that some Canaanites were executed to prevent their evil influence; I see what you are saying. But there is a contradiction here. If the Israelites were to forceably take some of these Canaanite women as their wives, wouldn't they be able to influence their Israelite husbands to take up their religious practices? God doesn't seem to be consistent here. Either kill all of the Canaanites or expect that the surviving Canaanite women that become wives to the Israelite men will influence the Israelite men to take up practices that God condemns. Wouldn't it have been far more merciful for God to teach the Canaanites what he approved and what he condemned? At least, they could have made the choice whether or not to comply. I realize that that takes away ones free will, but at the very least, they may have been able to live for awhile, instead of being summarily executed.

You also made the point that God needed to protect the line that led to the Messiah. I agree. But depsite the waywardness of the Israelites that went on for centuries, the Messiah still appeared. So, in spite of the fact that the Israelites, were for the most part disobedient, the line leading to the Messiah was preserved. So, I would say that there was a minority of Israelites that stayed faithful to God and yet God preserved the line leading to the Messiah.

As for our modern day, JW's expect that God will return and execute all those that reject the Messiah and all those that are living alife of wickedness in defiance of God's laws. Again, I say, did God create us just to destroy us? Can't he come up with another solution rather than destroying practically every human on this planet at Armageddon? I personally do not believe that God will take this drastic action. Consider.

Where you happen to be born is nothing more than the lottery of birth. No one can pick and choose their parents or the place or the culture or the reliogion or the nation that they are born into. So, let me get this straight. God will destroy every person not a baptized Witness, unless they are the minor children of baptized Witness parents. How is that fair? God will destroy every last Muslim because they aren't Christians. God will destroy every last Hindu and Buddhist and Shintoist and every person that claims that they are Christian but they are really not because they haven't attached themselves to the Faithful and Discreet Slave. Shouldn't God be looking at the inside of a person and not the externals to determine the goodness or evil that exists within a person? For God to destroy every last one of the groups that I mentioned just because they belong to those groups would be a worse form of genocide than Adolph Hitler ever dreamed up in that psychotic, evil head of his.

Consider Rex that there is more than one way to look at this issue. If God truly loves mankind then he will destroy those that really are evil and save those that are just trying their best to live and do the best they can in this world. Destroying people en masse because they belong to a particular religion and not the "right one" would be more evil than something Hitler and his henchmen could ever have dreamed up.

Mr. Shakita

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Donald Duck and Jehovah (from the book "Jehovah Unmasked")

by JamesThomas in

ll of us grew up watching and enjoying the antics of.

donald duck.

we laughed as he slowly but surely lost.

Shakita

I take it you will not be voting for Jehovah at the next Watchtower Society election.

Thanks Trevor. It has only been a few years since my eyes have been opened to the way that God is portrayed in the Bible. I hope that Rex will take his blinders off and at least ponder the points that everyone here is bringing out. The many inconsistencies and contradictions are apparent if one just takes the time to look at the Bible objectively. And no, I won't be voting for the WT god. There will be an abstention.

Mr. Shakita

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Donald Duck and Jehovah (from the book "Jehovah Unmasked")

by JamesThomas in

ll of us grew up watching and enjoying the antics of.

donald duck.

we laughed as he slowly but surely lost.

Shakita

The point of my response was that God, who is the Author of life, also has the prerogative to take life any time He wants; and it's immoral for us to take life because we don't have that prerogative, but it's okay for God to do so because that's His job, so to speak. I mentioned that we have a common sense awareness of this because when someone begins to act frivolously or attempt to do so with regards to the taking of human life, or even in genetic engineering--trying to build life or make life happen--we say that one ought not do that because it's not right for man to play God. Well, if we say that it's not right for man to play God in taking human life or manipulating life, it seems to acknowledge that it's okay for God to do so because that's His job. It's God's job to do those things about life and death.

Rex, your line of reasoning turns God into a megolamaniacal monster that takes pleasure in murdering people whenever he gets the hankering to do so. If we are to agree with your view of God, then we humans are far more merciful, understanding, insightful and just than the God that is supposed to be superior to us in all of these areas.

So, God has the prerogative to take human life any time he wants? I see. Why is it OK for God to do something that would be offensive and immoral to most human beings? Are you saying that humans are superior to God? We humans would find it illegal, immoral and disgusting for a human to take another human life just because they felt that it was their prerogative to do so. Oh, I get it, It's OK if God does something illegal, immoral and disgusting because he is God and has the prerogative to give human life or take human life whenever he wants to because he is God. And you want to worship this monster?

In a court of law the accused is given the opportunity to defend himself. A jury of his peers decide whether the evidence points to his guilt or his innocence. I realize that this system is an imperfect one because sometimes the guilty are freed and the innocent are imprisoned. At least the accused gets the opportunity to prove their innocence if that is the case and not be subject to a summary punishment.

If we are to believe that the Bible accurately pictures the omnipotent God then that God kills the innocent along with the guilty and encourages his followers to be brutal, merciless, vindictive and murderous. That is a God of love that we are to worship?

When the Israelites were taking over the land of Canaan they were commanded by God to slaughter all of the nations that were in that land. If that particular nation accepted an offer of peace then the nation wouild be spared and the subjugated people would become slaves.

Deutoronomy 20:10-18 highlights these issues:

10 When you march up to a city, makes it people an offer of peace.

11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and work for you. (So, God is advocating the subjugation of an entire people and he supports slavery)

12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. (Wouldn't the normal human reaction be to defend oneself from an agressor attempting to take over their land and their freedoms?)

13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it.

So, God is advocating the wanton slaughter of every man in the city. Think of the horrific consequences of such a holocaust. All of the thousands of women and children that would lose their husbands and fathers. Imagine the devastating effect upon the pysche of all the remaining survivors of this slaughter. Evidently, God is actually the father of the holocaust if we are to belileve the Bible's depiction of God.

14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.

What! God couldn't think of another way to solve this problem? If these Canaanites were so reprehensible, the only solution was to kill every last adult male in the city? Couldn't an omniscient God come up with some other solution than the holocaust of an entire people?

15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

I feel so close to God knowing that his way of solving problems is to murder all the males in whatever city that dares balk at giving up their territories.

16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

Damnnnnnnn! God got tired of specifying what human gets to live and what human gets to die. Kill them all and let God sort them out. Oh wait, God laughs, I am God. He had a good belly laugh over that one. So, the only solution to this problem of the wayward Canaanites that this loving, omniscient God could come up with was: "KILL THEM ALL." It's too hard to figure out a more merciful solution to the problem.

17 Completely destroy them---the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites---as the Lord your God has commanded you.

Do you get the message all you Israelites? There is no more ambiguity. Just kill all those lowlifes and you'll be alright in my book.

18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the lord your God.

Some of the Canaanites were involved in the sacrifice of their own children. Certainly this was a disgusting practice. Why not bring to justice those persons that were guilty of the murder of their own children? Those adults practicing pedophila should have been punished for their crimes. My point is that those Canaanites that were involved in crimes should have been brought to justice. Why should every last human being be slaughtered for the crimes of the few? Why should an entire city or race of people be slaughtered for the crimes of a minority of the people.

Could we imagine what would happen today if a dominant country decided to take over the territory of a foreign nation and slaughter all the males of that nation? The entire world would be in an outrage and rightfully so. Then suppose that the victors then took all the remaining wives to be their wives? Those actions would be the most disgusting and reprehensible offenses against humanity. How would the actions of this dominant nation be any different than the actions of Nazis during World War II. The hoped for destruction of an entire race.

Deutoronomy 21:10-14:

10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your god delivers them into your hands and you take captives,

11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as you wife.

12 Bring her into your home and shave her head, trim her nails

13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when she was captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.

14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.

So the God of the Bible is advocating kidnapping, rape and adultery. I thought that the God of love was against all those things. But hey, slaughter her husband in war as one of the hated Canaanites and voila, those piddling little crimes of kidnapping, rape and adultery carry no weight. Why, this drooling male is just following God's edict to capture all the women as plunder and heck, if she doesn't exactly fit the bill, get rid of her and get another. Sheesh! There are thousands more women where she came from.

There are many inconsistencies about the God of the bible. He commands that to murder another is wrong, but allows murder to take place if it is committed against the Canaanites. Adultery is wrong, except when the Israelite male takes the plunder from one of the slaughtered males of the Canaanites and kidnaps the remaining Canaaites women and takes her to be his wife. Even if this Israelite male decides to rid himself of this Canaanite woman and he gets another one, he still isn't committing adultery. I thought that if one got a divorce except for a case of adultery that the one getting a divorce and marrying another is an adulterer.

These scriptures at Deutoronomy are nothing more than humans giving themselves the right to do what would normally be considered egregious crimes, because supposedly they were given carte blanche by their God to commit these crimes. Wow! Isn't that convenient. Whenever you want to commit a crime, but know that what you want to do is illegal, immoral and disgusting, just claim that God gave you permission to do so. I believe Rex, that this depiction of God in the Bible is nothing more than a human invention of God that reflected the very attitudes of the persons living at that time. If this is what God is truly like, then we are subject to a God that behaves worse than the most reprehensible humans that ever walked the planet.

Mr. Shakita