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  Watchtower refuses to "Say Sorry" to Australian Royal Commission

  by Darth FayDehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://youtu.be/qic5cfkjswu.

  interview on melbourne (australia) abc radio - regarding watchtower's refusal to "say sorry" (global campaign).

  radio host jon faine interviews lara kaputt.

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  menrov

  For all those who talk or meet JW's, tell them that this ARC can be seen as fulfilment of these verses. You can add that God is acting via His servants in the ARC:

  13 Let every person be subject to the governingauthorities. For there is no authority except by God’sappointment, 1 and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 2 So the person who resistssuch authority 2 resists the ordinance of God, andthose who resist will incur judgment 3 (for rulerscause no fear for good conduct but for bad). Do you desire not to fear authority? Do good and you will receive its commendation 4 because it is God’sservant for your well-being. But be afraid if you dowrong because government 3 does not bear the sword for nothing. It is God’s servant to administerpunishment on the person who does wrong. 5Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not onlybecause of the wrath of the authorities 4 but alsobecause of your conscience. 5
  
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  Things you will never hear a good Jehovah’s Witness say (to another Jehovah’s Witness)

  by hoser in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i’ll start it off.

  boy did we get drunk last night.

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  menrov

  Cannot go to the meeting because

  - my kid has to go to soccer game

  - need to organize birthday party
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  My Dad's Funeral

  by Disassociated Lady 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had not seen my dad for 15 years because i had left the borg.

  (i had been out 26 years but there was a few years when the jws permitted contact with outsiders and then changed their minds again).

  they made contact with me again just before he was diagnosed with cancer.

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  Funerals are indeed for the living. As such, if my wife who is pimi, happens to die before me, I will not organize the funeral at a KH nor will I allow them to speak if they attend the funeral. Probably my only moment to remember her how I want to.
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  If the Bible is truly the word of God then why are their so many different Translations ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not only are their different translations from different denominations ,like the greek orthodox ,russian orthodox ,roman catholic .various protestant versions and others as well as the nwt of jw`s.. however various denominations print different versions of the bible which fair enough may only be minor differences yet at the same time they are differences to what they previously printed .?.

  and some have serious discrepancies .. as if they are trying to get to the true meaning of what god or jesus christ actually said or meant ?.

  are they for real ?

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  menrov

  faith is not through the written word, manipulation is. Some people start to have faith in a creator when they start to appreciate the creation. People who start to build up faith via one of the many translations, they often become either obsessed / fanatic, confused or indifferent. I know, sound a bit black and white but in reality, I wonder how many people really become the meek and loving neighbor by reading the bible.
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  Who stands to benefit from the JW scam

  by cognitivedizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys, i've always wondered about this ,.

  all the money grab,selling, consolidation of kh, real estate scam , who is the one who benefits from this elaborate scam, what's the deal ?

  who is the mastermind, do the gb or whoever really runs the show really believe what they sell.

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  As they say with crime case: follow the money. So he receives the money? Who grabs the money?

  What I would really like to know, who are the shareholders of the corporation?
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  How many here think Trump's news conference this evening was absolutely brilliant

  by ShirleyW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm being serious, i would like to hear from folks here that support him describe to me how that news conference was absolute brilliance, he answered all the questions, he knows what he is talking about.

  just want to compare note with those who aren't his supporters (and have common sense) as you know this forum is here to hear both sides, so, have at it .

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  Lets just say he is not my type
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  Further Proof of The Last Days

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just when you think you've heard it all:.

  'look at all these stores and businesses offering price matching!

  they're desperate for funds.

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  The peculiar thing is that JWs say they serve without a focus on dates (like saying they serve out of love) but they always get exited with some sort of sign of the end. And theyvare so happy with the end which means accoito their doctrine that many innocent people will die and be dead in the streets. Weird faith.
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  EU Court Ruling Against WT on Data-Protection

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today's london times reports on the july ruling of the eu court that forces the organisation country to comply with data protection.. the action originated in finland but the ruling will affect every eu country.

  the cult tried unsuccessfully to argue that the notes taken by jws in the door-to-door work were personal and not accessed by the congregation.

  the court ruled that they are acting under the auspices of the congregation and therefore they must comply with data-protection laws.. keeping lists of do-not-calls also falls under this ruling.. why does the cult always feel that it is above the law?.

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  menrov

  JWs are assigned to a congregation, the congregation assigns the territory for field service. On the map, the so-called not callers are shown. Individuals will have their own list of people not at home and will also make use of those from others. Re-visits are done in pairs so info is shared. WT cannot prove it does not have access to personal notes nor show a firm policy that prevents the public sharing of notes among members. All this is not in line with the new laws. Who knows, first step to stop door to door work.
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  You're in the Army Now: Jehovah's Witnesses No Longer Exempt From Finnish Draft

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://sputniknews.com/europe/201809211068220658-finland-jehovah-witnesses-army/.

  the finnish government has ruled that the current law allowing jehovah's witnesses to avoid military service, in place for several decades, is discriminatory and contradicts the constitution.. .

  in the future, finnish jehovah's witnesses* will be obliged to either serve in the nation's military or perform civil service on the same terms as everyone else, the government ruled, submitting a corresponding proposal to parliament, national broadcaster yle reported.. according to the 1987 law, jehovah's witnesses were not only freed from the military draft, they were freed of any obligation to perform community service as a pacifist alternative, a common option among other young people in finland.

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  If a Christian conscientiously concludes that he could perform civilian service rather than go to prison

  They love playing with words. On the one hand a JW needs to validate if doing civilian service does impact his so-called Christian responsibilities or even prevent me from fulfilling them. On the other hand, you can choose to go to prison. Like going to prison will help one to support his family (a real Christian duty), even going to field service or kingdom hall...…

  
  
  
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  Star Tribune: Jehovah's Witnesses accused of mishandling abuse in Montana

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.startribune.com/jehovah-s-witnesses-accused-of-mishandling-abuse-in-montana/493779331/.

  helena, mont.

  — two women who say they were sexually abused as children have alleged that the jehovah's witnesses failed to report their abuser to authorities in montana and instead punished him internally by expelling him from the congregation until he repented the following year.. a trial begins monday in the tiny city of thompson falls for one of dozens of lawsuits filed nationwide in the last decade over claims of child sexual abuse in jehovah's witness congregations.

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  I am not a lawyer or attorney but if the JW website say they consider child abuse as a crime, then one would expect that it must be reported to the authorities. If a JW says / confesses to an elder that he killed his neighbor, will they not report it? By not reporting crimes they are aware of, they become accomplices. Grrrr