Funerals are indeed for the living. As such, if my wife who is pimi, happens to die before me, I will not organize the funeral at a KH nor will I allow them to speak if they attend the funeral. Probably my only moment to remember her how I want to.
menrov
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My Dad's Funeral
by Disassociated Lady 2 ini had not seen my dad for 15 years because i had left the borg.
(i had been out 26 years but there was a few years when the jws permitted contact with outsiders and then changed their minds again).
they made contact with me again just before he was diagnosed with cancer.
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If the Bible is truly the word of God then why are their so many different Translations ?
by smiddy3 innot only are their different translations from different denominations ,like the greek orthodox ,russian orthodox ,roman catholic .various protestant versions and others as well as the nwt of jw`s.. however various denominations print different versions of the bible which fair enough may only be minor differences yet at the same time they are differences to what they previously printed .?.
and some have serious discrepancies .. as if they are trying to get to the true meaning of what god or jesus christ actually said or meant ?.
are they for real ?
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menrov
faith is not through the written word, manipulation is. Some people start to have faith in a creator when they start to appreciate the creation. People who start to build up faith via one of the many translations, they often become either obsessed / fanatic, confused or indifferent. I know, sound a bit black and white but in reality, I wonder how many people really become the meek and loving neighbor by reading the bible.
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Who stands to benefit from the JW scam
by cognitivedizzy inguys, i've always wondered about this ,.
all the money grab,selling, consolidation of kh, real estate scam , who is the one who benefits from this elaborate scam, what's the deal ?
who is the mastermind, do the gb or whoever really runs the show really believe what they sell.
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menrov
As they say with crime case: follow the money. So he receives the money? Who grabs the money?
What I would really like to know, who are the shareholders of the corporation?
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How many here think Trump's news conference this evening was absolutely brilliant
by ShirleyW ini'm being serious, i would like to hear from folks here that support him describe to me how that news conference was absolute brilliance, he answered all the questions, he knows what he is talking about.
just want to compare note with those who aren't his supporters (and have common sense) as you know this forum is here to hear both sides, so, have at it .
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Lets just say he is not my type
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Further Proof of The Last Days
by neat blue dog injust when you think you've heard it all:.
'look at all these stores and businesses offering price matching!
they're desperate for funds.
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menrov
The peculiar thing is that JWs say they serve without a focus on dates (like saying they serve out of love) but they always get exited with some sort of sign of the end. And theyvare so happy with the end which means accoito their doctrine that many innocent people will die and be dead in the streets. Weird faith.
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EU Court Ruling Against WT on Data-Protection
by cofty intoday's london times reports on the july ruling of the eu court that forces the organisation country to comply with data protection.. the action originated in finland but the ruling will affect every eu country.
the cult tried unsuccessfully to argue that the notes taken by jws in the door-to-door work were personal and not accessed by the congregation.
the court ruled that they are acting under the auspices of the congregation and therefore they must comply with data-protection laws.. keeping lists of do-not-calls also falls under this ruling.. why does the cult always feel that it is above the law?.
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menrov
JWs are assigned to a congregation, the congregation assigns the territory for field service. On the map, the so-called not callers are shown. Individuals will have their own list of people not at home and will also make use of those from others. Re-visits are done in pairs so info is shared. WT cannot prove it does not have access to personal notes nor show a firm policy that prevents the public sharing of notes among members. All this is not in line with the new laws. Who knows, first step to stop door to door work.
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You're in the Army Now: Jehovah's Witnesses No Longer Exempt From Finnish Draft
by Tahoe inhttps://sputniknews.com/europe/201809211068220658-finland-jehovah-witnesses-army/.
the finnish government has ruled that the current law allowing jehovah's witnesses to avoid military service, in place for several decades, is discriminatory and contradicts the constitution.. .
in the future, finnish jehovah's witnesses* will be obliged to either serve in the nation's military or perform civil service on the same terms as everyone else, the government ruled, submitting a corresponding proposal to parliament, national broadcaster yle reported.. according to the 1987 law, jehovah's witnesses were not only freed from the military draft, they were freed of any obligation to perform community service as a pacifist alternative, a common option among other young people in finland.
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If a Christian conscientiously concludes that he could perform civilian service rather than go to prison
They love playing with words. On the one hand a JW needs to validate if doing civilian service does impact his so-called Christian responsibilities or even prevent me from fulfilling them. On the other hand, you can choose to go to prison. Like going to prison will help one to support his family (a real Christian duty), even going to field service or kingdom hall...…
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Star Tribune: Jehovah's Witnesses accused of mishandling abuse in Montana
by Tahoe inhttp://www.startribune.com/jehovah-s-witnesses-accused-of-mishandling-abuse-in-montana/493779331/.
helena, mont.
— two women who say they were sexually abused as children have alleged that the jehovah's witnesses failed to report their abuser to authorities in montana and instead punished him internally by expelling him from the congregation until he repented the following year.. a trial begins monday in the tiny city of thompson falls for one of dozens of lawsuits filed nationwide in the last decade over claims of child sexual abuse in jehovah's witness congregations.
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I am not a lawyer or attorney but if the JW website say they consider child abuse as a crime, then one would expect that it must be reported to the authorities. If a JW says / confesses to an elder that he killed his neighbor, will they not report it? By not reporting crimes they are aware of, they become accomplices. Grrrr
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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?
by smiddy3 ini would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
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menrov
funny, If I go with a prostitute, according to Doubter, I just agree with her objectives but not with her beliefs/actions. UN is, according WT, a prostitute. Draw you own conclusion here.
Being a member of a political organization is a no-go situation for a JW. NGO membership with he UN is equal to being a member of the UN political organization. Not the same right as all others (oh how sad, as WT is soooo important) but still a member. Why else apply for a card? One drop of ink in clear water pollutes the entire glas of water.
Becoming a member of the soccer / football club is a no go for a JW as it might seem you support the objectives (competition) of that club. Being a member of the UN has exactly the same impact on people who see this. It means you support the UN, little or big, it does not matter. leaving a house of a single woman in the morning is immediate judgment, no matter if something happened.
point is that WT is obsessed to be recognized as being important. UN membership was one way to get that. Same with the OBSE in Europe. Why join? To feel important. WT is not important in the world at all. Actually nobody cares. If they would stop tomorrow, it would care nobody except for the current members.
Doubter is a typical JW. Blind and follows those who pretend to be angels but are actually wolves disguised as sheep. How can you recognize the wolves? Only if you open your eyes. Do I care if Doubter ever opens his eyes? No. His viewpoints? Useless. Same as JW's. they believe they are important and that their work are of major importance, with global impact etc.
I suggest to just ignore Doubter and treat him as the WT would treat anyone who disagrees with them. He is used to that.
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Revelation 14:4
by Sergey Antonov init turns out that on the basis of the book of revelation 14:4 the anointed ones have to be virgins?
how does the governing body explain this?.
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menrov
next time a JW has pre-marital "engagement", they ca now say: I am still a virgin....like the ones in rev. 14:4