Posts by menrov

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The Motive of the Governing Body

by jwfacts in

i have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.

however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.

it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.

menrov

I can believe that fortune or money was not a driver when Ray was a member. But a lot has changed and since the WT got hold of all kingdom halls worldwide and are far more focused on donations, my view is that money has become a driver. May be not the core driver but as key element of all their drivers:

- power
- being seen as special or important
- lack of personality in normal life and now want to prove they are doing a great job

Unless they are all blind and lack any sense of intelligence, they must know that their doctrines are not scriptural and that their views about Armageddon are based on philosophical ideas and wishful thinking. But as they convince themselves they need to provide a sort of "safe haven" for people (I truly believe they think that people are better of being in the organisation) , they will continue with their journey to convert people.

Thanks Paul

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8 Documents Arrived Today!

by Atlantis in

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friends

1.--authorization and release agreementfor disaster relief medical assistance.

------------------------------------------------------------------2.--for the attention of all elders------------------------------------------------------------------.

3.--additional direction regarding assistance with practical needs------------------------------------------------------------------.

menrov

Hi, can you add me to the mailing list? Thanks

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Kermit Is Delivering Documents!

by Atlantis in

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kermit is delivering documents with his kermit chopper.. https://docdro.id/a01tdj0.

if you are on the receive list these documents are already in your email.. .

if your not on the list, then reply below that you want kermit to swing by your place, and drop off a copy in your pm box.. .

menrov

Mailbox is hungry to receive :-)

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JW covid-19 victims in the Netherlands

by Gorbatchov in

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from an excellent and trustfull elder source, i heard today.

that in the netherlands, 440 jw's have covid-19 and 11 jw's have died.. g. .

menrov

Very sorry to hear as any victim is one too many. If number is correct, shame WT is silent on this. Are they scared to realize that their special bond with their God does not protect them and all suffer the same as all others?

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Simon's Board!

by Atlantis in

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the watchtower witch-hunters are still sending out subpoena's and closing down websites.

it is safer for simon, this board, and us if we send out internal confidential documents privately.. from time to time i will let you know something has arrived that you might want.

just send us a "pm" and we will give you the download links.. you do not need to include any personal information.

menrov

Love a cappuccino and a pm. Thanks

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My sister just sent me this text.

by Brainfloss in

my sister sent me this text a few minutes ago.

what does she know about my relationship with jehovah?

it was followed up by a bunch of links to jw org problem is dialog is not possible her side is the only one to be heard.

menrov

I would not start to argue as this will not make any sense with her. You can consider the following:

Hi, I hope your idea about the future will be as you are longing for. In my case, I spend my time on my family and try to enjoy now as much as possible. I am not scared of the future. It will be as it will be. I enjoy my family life and my social life. So, who knows, may be we'll see each other in the future.

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YOU are the Proof God exists!

by MuchCloserLook in

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menrov

Complexity does not serve as proof of a god. Though at the same time, life can only exist if all the conditions are met. Trial and error will not do it as out of death (a failed trial due to error), life cannot be generated (in order to try again) unless there is something that controls this trial and error process. In other words, I can see that sort of evolution can exist and being controlled by a god. A god that has the power to develop via trial and error (evolution). Why not??

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Don't forget to donate!

by neat blue dog in

the lucrative events otherwise known as assemblies and conventions are cancelled, which i'm sure has hit the wts in the pocketbook a little.

so the newest article on jwdotorg reminds us all yet again of the online recurring donation feature that takes credit and debit cards.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/making-electronic-donations-in-view-of-covid-19-precautions/.

a 74-year-old publisher .

menrov

Preaching is done virtually if at all. So, this sentence does not make any sense:

Because of this, many have also adjusted the way they support the worldwide preaching work by making their donations online.

The apps are free of cost, internet is already paid for by the user, why does WT need more money to support worldwide preaching works as there is hardly any worldwide preaching work that is on account (dollars) of WT?

His first name:

Brother Gajus Glockentin

sounds like gajes in Dutch ......

Anyway, this guy has many occurrences on Google

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Curious to know the Zoom attendance figures for for the memorial

by joe134cd in

i’m just curious to know the local attendance figures for the memorial.

my father told me they had an attendance of 140. not flattering for a cong of 100 pubs.

i was sort of surprised at this considering the quarantine measures and everyone being forced to stay at home.

menrov

The WT is only interested in numbers that support them, that make them shine. My company reports how many of our colleagues globally got infected, have died and that have recovered.

The WT never publishes anything like this, nor on a country level and not even on congregation level. They seem not to care who suffers and/or died.

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Are We Living In The Last Days?

by Vanderhoven7 in

just received this note out of the blue from a pimi jw.

how would you respond?.

hi vander,.

menrov

I'd like to say that from the first day one is born, that person lives in his final days. Why, every day the person lives, that person comes close this his/her end. On average these last days last some 75 years.

My answer to the above: if the bible verses that are used for the "last day" prophesy were written say between AD 35 and AD 100, what would all the people who read these verses during say AD35 and AD 1900 have thought? Also that they were in the last days? If so, their hope was idle as the world is still around.

Then I would say: if I would join your organisation out of fear of being destroyed, would my choice be out of love or fear? Should people choose to worship a god out of fear or out of love? If the latter, it does not matter in which period we live, as the choice will be made out of love. So, therefore, your doomsday message will only attract people who will have fear, fear to be destroyed.