Boc: wow, how did you manage that?
Clarity :Thanks. I liked your post. It is important that we dont let anyone pressure us into doing or not doing something.
i have not attended anything jw related for over a year.... until last week when i went to our one day convention.. why you ask?.
i can do what i want i'm a grown adult.. ok...ok...so my jw childhood friend who i have not seen forever, came by for a visit.. i mentally went through the check list:.
is she pioneering and need extra time?.
Boc: wow, how did you manage that?
Clarity :Thanks. I liked your post. It is important that we dont let anyone pressure us into doing or not doing something.
i have not attended anything jw related for over a year.... until last week when i went to our one day convention.. why you ask?.
i can do what i want i'm a grown adult.. ok...ok...so my jw childhood friend who i have not seen forever, came by for a visit.. i mentally went through the check list:.
is she pioneering and need extra time?.
Onthewayout: good points. The thing is as her friend would never ask her unless it was an emergency because I already know her priorities. But I have seen her miss meeting for family obligations.
Though you do make a valid point. I never realized how inconsiderate and self involved JWs are when it comes to working around other peoples lives.
we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.
i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.
i had been yo-young back and forth for years.
I am really enjoying reading everyone's posts. Thank you for sharing.
It really is different process for everyone. I really think the emotional chains are the hardest to break.
Flipper: you are right. It so important to learn the facts and research the evidence.
i have not attended anything jw related for over a year.... until last week when i went to our one day convention.. why you ask?.
i can do what i want i'm a grown adult.. ok...ok...so my jw childhood friend who i have not seen forever, came by for a visit.. i mentally went through the check list:.
is she pioneering and need extra time?.
Hi everyone. Sorry for not responding earlier. Was working.
Thanks forc all of your comments.
To those of you who have "been there, done that" I'm glad you could relate. Thanks for your support.
Blondie: you are right, she probably could still count the time. But I wasn't an after thought. You know...when they are out in service and they have a few minutes to kill, they stop at someone's house to finish up their time.
I realize and have fully accepted that we will never have the same relationship we had. I know in her way that visit was an act of love on her part. I was her at one time. I also know her she is loyal to her sisters who did not stay in.
i have not attended anything jw related for over a year.... until last week when i went to our one day convention.. why you ask?.
i can do what i want i'm a grown adult.. ok...ok...so my jw childhood friend who i have not seen forever, came by for a visit.. i mentally went through the check list:.
is she pioneering and need extra time?.
I have not attended anything JW related for over a year...
Until last week when I went to our one day convention.
WHY you ask?
Why not? I say.
I can do what I want I'm a grown adult.
ok...ok...so my JW childhood friend who I have not seen forever, came by for a visit.
I mentally went through the check list:
Is she pioneering and need extra time?
(No service clothes on- just casual)
A family crisis perhaps?
*No tears, seems cheerful.)
She loves me, she really loves me!!!
After some small talk, she smiles real big and sweet and says: I have a sandwich all packed for you for lunch tomorrow at the assembly. I'll save a seat for you.
You'll be there right?
Yeah, i'm a grown up and can do what I want.
I went. Why? What happens there doesnt matter to me any more.
But spending some time with my friend does matter to me.
we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.
i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.
i had been yo-young back and forth for years.
Maybe there is a difference between being emotionally connected to the people we love who are still in and being connected to the idea of a loving international godly organization.
Is it possible to seperate it?
The people we love still expect us to live up to theirb ideals. They view the organization to be God directed and can't understand why we dont so they feel betrayed.
I think the desire to please our loved ones can chain us and suck us back in.
we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.
i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.
i had been yo-young back and forth for years.
Joe: I agree. But I think most JWs have internal triggers that they ignore because they want to cling to the" worldwide family in God's organization" myth.
But once you are out emotionally triggered you still need TTATT to cut the ties and to get you mentally and physically free.
Some are never physically out because they are tied emotionally to loved ones still in.
we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.
i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.
i had been yo-young back and forth for years.
Cultbegone: Great post .Thanks for your insite and experience. I can relate alot to what you said. You are so right. The emotional chains can be an on going process to remove . I am glad you are in a better place now.
we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.
i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.
i had been yo-young back and forth for years.
So stuckinarut: are you saying you were already emotionally out ? Or did learning TTATT push you out emotionally also?
I am thinking of the ones here who still have loved ones in. It seems many times they try to wake them up mentally without success.
I am wondering if focusing on the emotional side would be more helpful.
As you said: it is hard to be emotionally tied to something that has been a source of hurt and deception and that has resulted in so much damage in ones life!
So I am wondering if being hurt by the org. and their policies make it easier to be receptive to the doctrinal TTATT.
Also if a person wants to keep their relationships intact and are fading they are still emotionally connected.
we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.
i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.
i had been yo-young back and forth for years.
We talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.
What about being emotionally free?
What comes first?
I realized for me, I had to be emotionally awake first. I had been yo-yo-ing back and forth for years. Until I found out about Candice Conti and realized the child abuse cover up mentality was a policy not a fluke.
When I started here and read the experiences and life stories, I realized the happiest, most loving people on earth was a fairy tale.
When I was able to disconnect from that lie, I was able to start tackling other " Truths" and mentally leaving.
Which one was harder for you?
Which one came first?