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  The power of thought

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i find it so interesting to see the intensity that results from intangible thoughts.

  no one living today has any personal direct experience with the people who wrote and rewrote the jews' and christians' scriptures.

  all that people have is in their imagination, yet they will demand that others have the identical mental model.. people are prepared to fight and argue over ideas, to the point of torture and murder.

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  What each does is their own responsibility and right.

  Doug if everyone followed that and believed it what a changed world we would live in.

  Imagine just letting people be true to themselves instead of trying to conform to others preconceptions.
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  RIP at least the world didn't get him, words of comfort?

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to my grieving sister about the death of her only son almost 2 year ago.

  he was 25.. we were having lunch when she repeated those words of"wisdom" from one of her jw in-laws.

  this is a hard month for her.

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  Stuck: yes it's like when others say: at least they dont have to suffer through the time of the end.

  I heard brothers tell her not to give up and how sad her son would be if she didnt make it.

  I think (edit to: I know) deep down she would rather have him alive and in the world for a long time instead of dead now .
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  RIP at least the world didn't get him, words of comfort?

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to my grieving sister about the death of her only son almost 2 year ago.

  he was 25.. we were having lunch when she repeated those words of"wisdom" from one of her jw in-laws.

  this is a hard month for her.

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  MissFit

  Data dog: you are right... they are both implying that it was god's will or for a higher purpose.

  Oubliette: I just bite my tongue when she mentions the resurrection. I know that is the only thing getting her through.

  They use his death to push her to do more so she can be there to greet him.

  She feels guilty because she isn't going to meetings.

  I listen to her talk about her memories of him. And my heart breaks.

  Then in an next breath she tells me what her relative said. At least the world didnt get him.

  Back story: he had stopped going to meetings. He was having trouble keeping a job because he had a drinking problem. He had a bad work accident when he was 19 and almost died.

  My sister tried to get him to see a doctor and to get into counseling.

  He had an enlarged heart and died of a heart attack.

  I would never take away her hope.
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  RIP at least the world didn't get him, words of comfort?

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to my grieving sister about the death of her only son almost 2 year ago.

  he was 25.. we were having lunch when she repeated those words of"wisdom" from one of her jw in-laws.

  this is a hard month for her.

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  MissFit

  How about when someone says when talking about a nonJW relative:

  Well now we'll see him in the new system ( being grateful he died before the end)

  I could not believe that he thought her son was better off dead than in the " world".

  Dont people stop to think about what they are really saying?
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  RIP at least the world didn't get him, words of comfort?

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to my grieving sister about the death of her only son almost 2 year ago.

  he was 25.. we were having lunch when she repeated those words of"wisdom" from one of her jw in-laws.

  this is a hard month for her.

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  MissFit

  To my grieving sister about the death of her only son almost 2 year ago. He was 25.

  We were having lunch when she repeated those words of"wisdom" from one of her JW in-laws.

  This is a hard month for her. She is trying to move on but of course the grief is still there. She holds on fast to the resurrection hope.

  What other words of "encouragement" have you heard?
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  I put the kingdom first! Now look what happened...

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i put the kingdom first - by sheree stokell.

  so they dunked me in a pool.

  armageddon would be here soon.

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  Not new: how would you write it from a man's

  point of view? :

  I put the kingdom first she was a pioneer

  But after the wedding day,

  I was only worthy of her sneer.

  I put the kingdom first

  I tried to be the spiritual head

  She would just laugh at me

  and kick me out of bed.

  (With apologies to Julia)
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  How do we set up a "Used New Bike Fund" for Terry?

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?

  with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.

  does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?

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  How's the new bike? Have you broken it in yet?
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  Straw man? ( Im still learning how to identify different fallacies)
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  MissFit

  PSCA: I think I understand what you are trying to say .

  But it sounds like you and Cofty are talking about two different gods.

  I used to reason is the same way about death. Especially when it came to the blood issue or being willing to die to remain faithful.

  Cofty made a point about that attitude some pages back that really made me think.

  I dont have the link so I am paraphrasing what I got out of it.

  That reasoning is dangerous and cheapens life. If god does not value our life because it is a temporary condition, why should we?

  What is the point of this whole compassion thing you were talking about?

  Wouldn't it be more compassionate to usher suffering people to the next "state"

  by killing them, instead of letting them live in agony?

  I had to believe death was temporary just to be able to justify putting my child's life in jeopardy.

  The god cofty was challenging was the God of Love and omnipotence.
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  How do we set up a "Used New Bike Fund" for Terry?

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?

  with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.

  does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?

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  MissFit

  Congrats terry on your bike. Dont forget to wear your helmet!