Been a long time since I was at a meeting. But I'm going to find out exactly when they're reading this new crap contribution letter and go to that one. I'm super excited to see what they have to say about it.
Enlightenment123
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New talk outline! UNITE WITH JEHOVAH'S HAPPY PEOPLE!!!!
by DATA-DOG inyay!!!
seriously one of the most watchtarded talks ever.
maybe one of our elders can post the outline??
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Satan's tic tacs or GB kool aid?
by sparrowdown inanyone that has been a jw would be familiar with any or all the following scenarios.. 1. you get offered a full time position or promotion after submitting a pioneer application.. 2. a really great bible student you have gets offered a job which means they have to move or have no time for study anymore.. 3. a promising return visit begins a new relationship and the new bf/gf is'nt favourable to jws so the great rv backs off.. 4. a married sister falls pregnant right after her and her husband are invited to bethel or circuit work or gilead.. 5.a couple needs to start caring for an aging parent right after they decide to move to where the need is greater.. etc, etc, etc.
most if not all jw's would tell you satan is to blame,.... or is he?.
satanic pattern of sabotage or blind superstition?.
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JustVisiting....PG = pregnant, I assume. EDIT: Millie, sorry...I didn't see your post :)
Call me crazy but I 100% believe that the devil himself runs this organization. These different things happening may be a way for the REAL God to keep these people away - either an RV or to keep someone from getting deeper into it at Bethel, etc.
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I went to one of my previous halls remodel today and they did not recognize me...
by confusedandalone ini definitely look like a worldly person by jw standards... however i went to my old hall because they are remodelling and they are in the final p[hase.
it was not on purpose.
i had bnusiness on the street and happened to drive past.
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Enlightenment123
Hey there,
I'm sorry about your family. My family lately has been proving to me that they love the org more than me too, so I know how that feels.
Bright side of your story...you made a grown man run away like a sissy for no real reason whatsoever, except their twisted definition of 'apostate'.
Just remember that you may be confused, but you're definitely not alone. Have a great weekend :)
-Steph
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Strange recent "new light" phrases and directives. I need the quotes please
by stuckinarut2 inhey all,.
as we know there have been some strange new quotes over the last few recent years...such as the classic:.
"we may be asked to do whatever, even if it doesnt appear sound from a human standpoint etc..." (words to that effect).
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Oh, I am also currently compiling pictures of demonic subliminal images embedded in the publications. I have a whole pile of them so far. This, along with quotes like the obey one scare the crap out of me. If anyone wants info about the images, send me a message. I don't really want to post the pictures here if I don't have to.
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Strange recent "new light" phrases and directives. I need the quotes please
by stuckinarut2 inhey all,.
as we know there have been some strange new quotes over the last few recent years...such as the classic:.
"we may be asked to do whatever, even if it doesnt appear sound from a human standpoint etc..." (words to that effect).
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Enlightenment123
I am beginning to make a list as well. I also have a feeling these are going to be needed. The comment about obeying all instructions no matter how crazy has disturbed me most of all of them. They're planning something, I just know it. I'm not sure if the study edition or simplified edition for that quote is more sinister. They're both pretty bad. If I come across some good ones, I'll send them to you.
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They also fulfill this one. These types are the only ones that wouldn't make them a false prophet.
4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
1 Timothy 4:1-5
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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Enlightenment123
His Excellency,
Hi there. Thanks for introducing yourself.
I just had a comment and a question.
The comment is...please be fair on the JC. A lot of elders aren't and sometimes the ones accused aren't actually guilty of anything.
The question is...how do you feel about the new contribution stuff? The monthly payments or whatever it's being called that will be announced soon. What's the temperature on that wherever you are?
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I'm postponing my JW elderette and her BS session again
by Faithful Witness ini really do have more important things to do this week, so i am postponing my elderette again.
she has not yet contacted me for her "topic of discussion" for the week.
i know she wants time to prepare her speech and presentation.
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Enlightenment123
Faithful Witness, thanks for the welcome :) I would love to talk more whenever you have time. Send me a message any time at all.
I hope none of us become a statistic in that case, but it scares me. Really scares me. I think if you asked 10 witnesses if they would obey any instructions, even if it meant killing someone, and 9 would say yes without hesitation like our mothers did.
If anyone is interested, I've taken to Yahoo Answers recently. There are a lot of witnesses there, responding regularly to questions. I, and a small group of people, are together working to explain from the Bible how the WT rules and doctrine don't add up with what the Bible actually says. They have really jumped on most of the questions, but ones about partaking at the Memorial and blood have seemed to kinda stop them in their tracks. I think deep down, a lot of them don't truly agree with at least some parts of the doctrine, but they follow it anyway. So we're very much trying to get them to look into it for themselves and see what the Bible says. We're trying really hard to close the gap they have between themselves and God. And we could seriously use some backup there, if anyone wanted to jump in on some of these questions/answers.
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New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me
by Watchtower-Free innew donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.
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http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.
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Enlightenment123
Here's my opinion. If elders and other witnesses can come on this site to try and catch someone at apostasy, we need to go to the KH the week of May 5 when this letter is read and see what kinds of comments they actually make from the platform. And also any current witnesses that are already here should do this, if willing, at their respective KH.
If anyone is willing, across the US or the world, to go and hear what they have to say about the little part of the letter they read, we should do it. Then come back here and compile the comments from KHs in a topic. I'm going to ask my elder grandfather what day they're going to do it and will probably go to the KH here when they read it. This is going to be a HUGE problem for some witnesses and a lot of them will end up having to eat their words for criticizing other churches for passing a collection plate for voluntary donations. Some churches may look down on you for not putting anything in the plate, but none that I've been to.
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Memorial Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT "Witness" to Family and Friends
by AMNESIANO inanyone who has awakened to ttatt and conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent individual from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".
nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings" or "spiritually-weak" but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you know to be their one-and-only holy and sacred event of the year, the lord's evening meal.
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Enlightenment123
Wow...I can't even remember the last time I went to a Memorial. I've, once again, been invited and received the paper invites from multiple people this year. I will not be attending, just as I don't every year.
Absolutely, positively cannot agree more with this post. And I couldn't have said it better myself!