Oh, I am also currently compiling pictures of demonic subliminal images embedded in the publications. I have a whole pile of them so far. This, along with quotes like the obey one scare the crap out of me. If anyone wants info about the images, send me a message. I don't really want to post the pictures here if I don't have to.
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Strange recent "new light" phrases and directives. I need the quotes please
by stuckinarut2 inhey all,.
as we know there have been some strange new quotes over the last few recent years...such as the classic:.
"we may be asked to do whatever, even if it doesnt appear sound from a human standpoint etc..." (words to that effect).
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Strange recent "new light" phrases and directives. I need the quotes please
by stuckinarut2 inhey all,.
as we know there have been some strange new quotes over the last few recent years...such as the classic:.
"we may be asked to do whatever, even if it doesnt appear sound from a human standpoint etc..." (words to that effect).
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Enlightenment123
I am beginning to make a list as well. I also have a feeling these are going to be needed. The comment about obeying all instructions no matter how crazy has disturbed me most of all of them. They're planning something, I just know it. I'm not sure if the study edition or simplified edition for that quote is more sinister. They're both pretty bad. If I come across some good ones, I'll send them to you.
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Enlightenment123
They also fulfill this one. These types are the only ones that wouldn't make them a false prophet.
4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
1 Timothy 4:1-5
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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Enlightenment123
His Excellency,
Hi there. Thanks for introducing yourself.
I just had a comment and a question.
The comment is...please be fair on the JC. A lot of elders aren't and sometimes the ones accused aren't actually guilty of anything.
The question is...how do you feel about the new contribution stuff? The monthly payments or whatever it's being called that will be announced soon. What's the temperature on that wherever you are?
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I'm postponing my JW elderette and her BS session again
by Faithful Witness ini really do have more important things to do this week, so i am postponing my elderette again.
she has not yet contacted me for her "topic of discussion" for the week.
i know she wants time to prepare her speech and presentation.
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Enlightenment123
Faithful Witness, thanks for the welcome :) I would love to talk more whenever you have time. Send me a message any time at all.
I hope none of us become a statistic in that case, but it scares me. Really scares me. I think if you asked 10 witnesses if they would obey any instructions, even if it meant killing someone, and 9 would say yes without hesitation like our mothers did.
If anyone is interested, I've taken to Yahoo Answers recently. There are a lot of witnesses there, responding regularly to questions. I, and a small group of people, are together working to explain from the Bible how the WT rules and doctrine don't add up with what the Bible actually says. They have really jumped on most of the questions, but ones about partaking at the Memorial and blood have seemed to kinda stop them in their tracks. I think deep down, a lot of them don't truly agree with at least some parts of the doctrine, but they follow it anyway. So we're very much trying to get them to look into it for themselves and see what the Bible says. We're trying really hard to close the gap they have between themselves and God. And we could seriously use some backup there, if anyone wanted to jump in on some of these questions/answers.
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New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me
by Watchtower-Free innew donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.
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http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.
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Enlightenment123
Here's my opinion. If elders and other witnesses can come on this site to try and catch someone at apostasy, we need to go to the KH the week of May 5 when this letter is read and see what kinds of comments they actually make from the platform. And also any current witnesses that are already here should do this, if willing, at their respective KH.
If anyone is willing, across the US or the world, to go and hear what they have to say about the little part of the letter they read, we should do it. Then come back here and compile the comments from KHs in a topic. I'm going to ask my elder grandfather what day they're going to do it and will probably go to the KH here when they read it. This is going to be a HUGE problem for some witnesses and a lot of them will end up having to eat their words for criticizing other churches for passing a collection plate for voluntary donations. Some churches may look down on you for not putting anything in the plate, but none that I've been to.
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Memorial Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT "Witness" to Family and Friends
by AMNESIANO inanyone who has awakened to ttatt and conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent individual from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".
nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings" or "spiritually-weak" but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you know to be their one-and-only holy and sacred event of the year, the lord's evening meal.
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Wow...I can't even remember the last time I went to a Memorial. I've, once again, been invited and received the paper invites from multiple people this year. I will not be attending, just as I don't every year.
Absolutely, positively cannot agree more with this post. And I couldn't have said it better myself!
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Does anyone remember the article which mentioned that many non-jws would survive armageddon?
by cultBgone ini seem to think it was a november wt issue but can't remember precisely, but it was probably printed within the last three years.
after being told for years and years that everyone not a jw would be destroyed, this was amazing to see in print!
yet when i pointed it out to others, they just shrugged it off and left me wondering what i was missing.... does this ring a bell with anyone?.
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Enlightenment123
I don't know where, but yes, I've seen it. And actually, my mother was saying something to that effect to me recently. If she's saying it, it's somewhere in the literature. Probably recently. If I come across it, I'll post the info.
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Gerrit Lösch Tells his life story/ One word SICKENING
by suavojr inthis article is sickening, not a single word about love towards others, care for the needy or any kind act.
but since i worked 72 hours each week in a hotel restaurant, i first had to make some changes.. i asked my boss whether he would allow me to work 60 hours instead.
i next asked to be allowed to work only 36 hours per week, or 6 hours on 6 days, and that request was also granted.
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Enlightenment123
Given what we all know about this group, I would not at all be surprised if they ever ended up saying they could resurrect. Jesus said many deceivers would come performing great signs and miracles. I could totally see them doing that. It would be a gigantic red flag, but unfortunately, most witnesses won't see it. They'll just form a line to let the GB know who they want resurrected first.
Have you ever noticed that the yearbooks and a lot of publications are always spouting "figures". This many baptized, this many preaching hours, preaching the good news in this many lands and languages, no one can translate the Bible and literature faster than us...over and over and over. This is what I consider a deceiver performing "signs and miracles".
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Gerrit Lösch Tells his life story/ One word SICKENING
by suavojr inthis article is sickening, not a single word about love towards others, care for the needy or any kind act.
but since i worked 72 hours each week in a hotel restaurant, i first had to make some changes.. i asked my boss whether he would allow me to work 60 hours instead.
i next asked to be allowed to work only 36 hours per week, or 6 hours on 6 days, and that request was also granted.
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This is ludicrous. The statement about the tract in the Bible IS seriously huge. Wow. The audacity of this man!!
What do they have against the word grace? I really, really don't get it. Look at the Greek...the word used means grace. If you plug in undeserved kindness in a translator, it's not even close.
What do they have against Jesus? This seriously pisses me off. As mean as it is, I want to be with Jesus when these people come before Him in judgment. But, at the same time, I don't want to be anywhere near them, the Bible translating committee, or anyone else that has had a part in altering the word of God and the false prophecies and the altogether false religion doctrine.
I saw a picture from a Watchtower (2013 I think) that seriously tells it like it is. It's a picture of the earth, with heaven above. There are angels, there's Jehovah on the throne and then on the earth? The GB is on top of the world, all the others below them - branch, elders, etc. and the average publishers are at the bottom of the barrel. So, so true and the message intended is clear. Just one question. Where is Jesus in this picture?? Nowhere.