Gregor, those are great things to say. Once I have the energy to say them to him. I just can't deal with it now, my child doesn't want me to tell him I know he said this and I want her to continue feeling comfortable talking to me. So for now, I hold it in. Well, except now as I am sharing it here which provides some therapeutic relief I suppose.
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Update: Compromise of sorts reached regarding my child
by HeyThere insorry this is a bit long...lots of crap has happened in the past few months.
i was told i had cancer, then didn't have it, then did.
then found out my best friend had pretty much the same cancer, it spread, she died this month.
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Update: Compromise of sorts reached regarding my child
by HeyThere insorry this is a bit long...lots of crap has happened in the past few months.
i was told i had cancer, then didn't have it, then did.
then found out my best friend had pretty much the same cancer, it spread, she died this month.
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Alphaman...I was surprised how easily he compromised about my daughter. I am happy for that. But his mind is boggled with this stuff. He knows how much that girl meant to me, my kids, even him and others. She has been around for decades. Both of us having cancer at the same time, and a similiar cancer at that, not a likely occurrence at our age (30's) and mine was found early. I still have another surgery to undergo but I am ok and declared cancer free. Hers went crazy. I stayed at the hospital with her until she passed away. I held her, cried with her, laughed with her, reminiscent of our dreams and the plans we had for the future. She was like my sister. We were so close that it was only me and her mother who spoke with doctors, slept in the room with her at night, etc. I am gutted. So him saying that just kills me.
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JW attitudes to women
by Frazzled UBM ini would be very interested to hear from you ladies on this one.
i know that the society keeps women in subjugation through the headship cr@p but didn't ahve any sense about hoew prehistoric the attitudes are until the other day when we were driving out of the supermarket car park and my wife spotted a woman dressed in tight shorts (it has been very hot here) and she commented 'they say that women who dress like that dserve to be raped'.
i did a wtf and overreacted 'how can you blame the victim like that - such attitudes give men a lciense to commit rape and make women feel they are to balme if they get raped which in turn means that rape doesn't get reported and it gopes on with impunity.
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I was appalled when I first picked up on the whole women = subjective, mindless, submissive sheep thing. I have worked hard in the corporate world to be treated as an equal, and here I go during a "good ol boy" crisis at work and hear the ignorance spewed from the pulpit. "Brothers, you may now be seated." So was I supposed to stay standing? No? Then why did he only say brothers could be seated? My husband would shake his head and later say it wasn't meant like that. Mmmmm kaaaaaay.
Then the sisters I studied with, even if my husband wasn't home they would cover their heads. So weird. In field service, there were times my husband was the only male. I realized they expected him to decide the next territory or plans to work it. I didn't care. I wonder what they thought of my telling my husband how I thought it would be best to work it. They never said anything but stood quietly waiting. So weird.
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SAY WHAAAAT? YOU CRAZY DUDE!
by sparrowdown inseriously, endured a torturous conversation with an active jdub yesterday.
and he was frothing at the mouth about how "muslims are doing the right thing with .
executing the....." he then went on to list everyone from drugdealers to thieves to fornicators.. he said "countries where this sort of thing is happening have got it right!
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When I was with my friend at the hospital, some of my witness family came to visit. As soon as they started with the "wicked system of things" talk I pulled them out. My friend was so not caring to hear that mess, coupled with "Hopefully Jehovah will keep her in his memory" crap. Having the resurrection tracts on standby. Some witnesses just don't realize how inappropriate and crazy their behavior is.
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Inside the Heaven's Gate Suicide Cult
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbtltha0wow.
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I only watched a few minutes of it...but will watch it all later. Just so sad how religion can be used to hurt people and cause such devastating actions to occur.
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Not on JW.org: SIX Texas victims acuse Jehovah's Witness Elder & Circuit Overseer of sexual abuse, and bring lawsuit against Watchtower for cover-up.
by Balaamsass2 insexual exploitation and abuse of six young children leads to lawsuit in dallas county.
dallas, oct. 23, 2014 /news.gnom.es/ six young adults, from north texas, all sexually abused as children, filed suit today in dallas, texas state court against three north texas jehovahs witnesses congregations (dallas, plano, and greenville), the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and an elder.. sexually abused when they were ages 4 through 14, the plaintiffs were children of members of the dallas, plano, and greenville jehovahs witnesses congregations.
the suit states that they were repeatedly sexually abused and molested by an elder and an unknown regional circuit overseer, and that they and their families were threatened with discipline and harm if they disclosed the abuse to anyone.
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Update: Compromise of sorts reached regarding my child
by HeyThere insorry this is a bit long...lots of crap has happened in the past few months.
i was told i had cancer, then didn't have it, then did.
then found out my best friend had pretty much the same cancer, it spread, she died this month.
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Sorry this is a bit long...lots of crap has happened in the past few months. I was told I had cancer, then didn't have it, then did. I really did. Then found out my best friend had pretty much the same cancer, it spread, she died this month. And of course dealing with my super dubbified husband through it all. Overall he has been supportive, overall. Not completely. So hear it goes.
So my husband is still in uber dub mode, attending all meetings and loving all that "spiritual food" dispensed by the FDS. As a recap, he was shunning me, his wife, who was never actually a jdub, (he was not active when we met, married, or the first decade of our marriage) because I started questioning the religion. I stopped going to meetings a few months ago after he threw away my CoC book saying it would bring demons into our home. He shunned me until I was diagnosed with cancer, then he realized life is short and we just don't talk about religion. So things are ok on that front.
However, this hit home even more when a close family friend (my best friend from childhood) was diagnosed with late stage cancer. I have been out of state caring for her for several weeks. She passed away. My heart is broken. I am fighting depression. It is what it is. My best friend is dead and I survived the same cancer. She was also godmother to all my kids. My kids are reeling from the loss and they also were flown out of state and pulled from school to be with her in her last days. Absolutely heart breaking.
My youngest is our only minor child and has been forced to go to meetings, field circus, and have weekly studies with the demon believing sister I once studied with, who had simply stopped showing up or contacting me when I asked those questions months back.
My child asked me to tell her dad, my husband, that she absolutely doesn't believe in the jokehovah religion and wants to stop going. She is very upset with the anti gay and other hateful teachings. She absolutely disagrees with the religion.
So last week I spoke with my husband. It went surprisingly well. She still has to go to meetings but field circus only 1 or 2 times a month and she no longer has to study with the sister. My child is ok with this for now.
So she went to the meeting with him last week, the Thursday meeting. When she gets back she looks furious and immediately pulls me aside. She then proceeds to tell me that my husband told her to look at what has happened to me since I stopped going to meetings. I started smoking again, am having work troubles...and my best friend died. He said when you stop going to meetings, you let bad things happen.
She was so mad that he tried to put me not going to meetings as the reason her godmother died. But also asked me not to tell him she told me because she doesn't want to deal with him being mad at her.
I was so angry! But now feel just sad, that he really may feel this way. At least he is compromising but wtf! Why would he even say that?
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Listen to the Pilot Episode of JW Podcast
by God_Delusion inhi guys,.
check out our first ever podcast here - http://www.jwpodcast.org/2014/10/19/s01e00-macclesfield-forest, or download this episode (right click and save).
it's finally here, our first ever jehovah's witness podcast!
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I listened last night. Great stuff.
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Throw Out Your Blood Cards!
by Coded Logic inex-jehovah's witness bled to death after surgery .
in 2006, riddell signed a declaration that she did not want to be given blood during any medical procedure because of her jehovah's witness beliefs, even if healthcare providers believed that it was necessary to preserve her life.. she later stopped practising the religion but her brother told hill she maintained the declaration because she had researched the use of blood transfusions and made an informed decision not to receive any blood.. riddell opted for the surgery after being diagnosed with symptomatic gallstones, hill said.. parry met with riddell before the surgery but did not discuss receiving blood with her as he told hill the chances of someone bleeding during the surgery were less than one per cent.. that meant the surgery began at wairau hospital at 9am without parry knowing about the declaration, although his anaesthetist did.. it was originally supposed to be a keyhole only surgery, but parry made the decision to go to an open surgery as he could not access the gall bladder through the keyhole technique.. during the surgery there was a small amount of bleeding, which parry was unconcerned about.. the surgery finished at 11.15am and parry went away to perform another surgery.
during that time, riddell's blood pressure dropped and fluids increased.. the anaesthetist visited parry during his surgery and told him "we have a problem, she's bleeding.
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Although I was never baptized, my husband is full in dub. So I make sure to explain this anytime I have a procedure and my sister is poa, so I don't have to worry about my husband being pressured to let me die without blood.
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Corpus Linguistics - Text Analysis of All Watchtower Publications since 1800's
by objectivetruth ini've been working on a side project for a while.
the goal of the project is to create a comprehensive database of all publications throughout history.
with this database i will be able to instantly find trends in text,sentiment of writing, methods used, and scriptures emphasized.. essentially i will be able to put a word like "apostate" into my tool, and instantly receive a report showing every time the word (or similar words) has been used in all publications since 1870.. i will also be able to create reports showing word density used in publications over time.. so i'll be able to see that the word "governing body" has increased in usage 25% year over year since 1975.. or i will be able to analyze the november 2014 wt and run an algorithm that helps to determine, what the tone and motive of the writing is.. the thing that i am most excited about is the ability to instantly find every occurence of a scripture in every publication.. this will be a great tool to find flip flops in doctrine as well as inaccuracies in biblical interpretation.. i will for sure publish all interesting findings here.. .
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I also would love to see this. I know the writings are extremely manipulative.