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Brad
outbutnotdown
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ITS A ....... Now with pic
by Es inhealthy baby girl.. .
had my ultrasound this morning, baby is healthy.
i have some pics of her but my scanners not working at the moment, so will pass them on once its working.
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Funny (and sometimes annoying) things your pets do.
by outbutnotdown ini have two cats.
brother and sister.
good cats and i love 'em, but the male cat is really clingy.. it's usually no problem, but every time i answer the phone, the male cat immediately jumps on my lap, demanding attention.. it makes it really challenging when i am at the computer, attempting to search files, etc.
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LOL.... Timmy the cat seems cute.
My cats make quite the ruckuss downstairs sometimes, loud enough that it seems that people are wrestling on the floor. I snuck down and watched them for awhile one time.
They would stand at opposite corners of the recroom and run at each other, full speed, each leaping into the air and crashing into each other belly-first, then falling to the ground. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
I think I know how Andre the Giant was reincarnated now.
Brad
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Funny (and sometimes annoying) things your pets do.
by outbutnotdown ini have two cats.
brother and sister.
good cats and i love 'em, but the male cat is really clingy.. it's usually no problem, but every time i answer the phone, the male cat immediately jumps on my lap, demanding attention.. it makes it really challenging when i am at the computer, attempting to search files, etc.
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I have two cats. Brother and sister. Good cats and I love 'em, but the male cat is REALLY clingy.
It's usually no problem, but EVERY time I answer the phone, the male cat immediately jumps on my lap, demanding attention.
It makes it really challenging when I am at the computer, attempting to search files, etc. for information on the topic at hand while he is doing this..... and it doesn't matter how many times I put him down, he just keeps jumping back up.
And don't get me started with the problems it causes during the phone sex.
But seriously, what odd things do your pets do?
Brad
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For the Christians on this board
by Honesty in.
is jesus real to you?.
the reason i ask is because a few weeks ago i was talking with two young men about him and one of them turned to the other (his cousin) and said, "i know jesus is real.
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Is Jesus real to you?
No, he is not.
Any "answered" prayers are explained just as easily by the effect of bringing positive thoughts to our subconscious mind.
I prefer to believe in the ability to control my own destiny through my own mental processes, than I do in believing some fairytale....... but, of course, that could just be Satan talking.
Brad
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I am a magnet for men in cults
by kristyann inokay, so the ex-jw boyfriend and i finally broke up... and i am not really looking for anyone right now.
that was 2 and a half years of a pretty crazy relationship, and i don't think that i was particularly healthy staying in it.
i don't mind just hanging out with some guys, but i am not in the mood for anything serious after that roller coaster ride.. do you know what is so weird, though?
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I hope he stays away from you - why - you just showed the character trait that is destructive to relationships. He is not judging you for being non-mormon but you are judging him for being one. All that cr*p about cultlike thinking is just drivel - if you really knew Mormons and had the intellectual honesty to be more informed than from South Park Episodes you'd realise that they are people just like everone else - their beliefs just happen to be summed up as: 'If there is anything virtuous , lovely or of good report we seek after these things.' Of course - people aiming for those things as life goals are rare and you are probably better of taking your chances with a guy who's idea of happiness in booze and rates his life aims as scratching his butt.
When you say "scratching his butt", do you mean, as compared to "kissing Mormon ass", such as you are doing?
Granted, Mormons in general are good people, but their Church's teachings are what is whacked.
Do you seriously think that this Mormon guy (just like JWs) would not insist on converting KristyAnn BEFORE he commits to her?
It is entirely hypocritical, therefore, for you to suggest that she and others are being judgemental of him, when the reality is that he is just being presented exactly as his Church wants him (and quite frankly INSISTS that he is) portrayed.
Brad
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Show us your picture
by Honesty in.
that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .
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hopefully i did it right...
Yup..... you did it right.... and what a sweet smile.
Brad
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How many languages can you "speak"?
by averyniceguy in.
even though i am myself deaf, i can speak english pretty well and i also do america sign language.
what about you?
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English is my natural language...... mais je parle aussi le Francais parce que, quand j'etais jeune, je suis alle a une ecolle avec Immersion Francaise. (all you french people, pardon me for not having the accent aigus and accent graves... and don't get me started on the accent circomflexes.... lol)
But when I was in high school, Italian was the "in" thing and I took one class to learn Italian...... Mama mia so saying "Davide a il grande pacco" got a few laughs.
Brad
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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders- Part 2
by enlightenedcynic inthanks for all of the kind words and advice, i appreciate it greatly and will look to use some of it.
a special thank you to both cal and vitty for their pm's which gave me a different perspective to look from.. so the p.o.
meets with us in one of the back rooms and my wife starts to speak.
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She is very intelligent and studies a lot(wt literature that is)
Isn't that an oxymoron?
and since I have been on the fade for a while, she views her level of spirituality as higher than mine. So in order for me to effectively win my wife over, I will have to demonstrate an equal zeal for the wt rubbish! Then, when she feels safe and comfortable with me(what 10 years from now?...(smile)..), I should be able to begin trying to reason with her on certain topics. Thats the plan for the moment anyway.
Can I start calling you Job?..... because you're going to need his patience and more. Dude, I can understand your dedication to your wife and your children, but you're planning on playing a game for that long?
IMHO, you have to be honest with yourself first. You know the truth about the "truth". Pretending to not know that will only delay the inevitable.
Brad
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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders- Part 2
by enlightenedcynic inthanks for all of the kind words and advice, i appreciate it greatly and will look to use some of it.
a special thank you to both cal and vitty for their pm's which gave me a different perspective to look from.. so the p.o.
meets with us in one of the back rooms and my wife starts to speak.
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I do feel that her approach throughout all of this has been manipulative and demeaning; shes reinforcing a message which suggests that if you do what she wants you to do then all will be well but if you dont toe the line then all hell will be let loose. What makes this even more sinister is that shes cloaked this with what she would describe as love when in reality (as it seems to me) its far from that; your relationship in my view is one not of love but about control.
I agree wholeheartedly.
However, you did buy yourself some time by "chickening out" when talking to the PO.
Take that time to plan your exit from your marriage, so that you can ensure that you have a relationship with the kids when you are out, because if you don't ensure that now, the JWs will stop at nothing in their attempts to keep the kids from you.
And if somewhere along the way, your wife opens her eyes to her manipulative nature and accepts you for you as opposed to what she's doing now, then accept her back into your life.
You're not in an easy situation, but if you don't stnd up for what's right, it could get a LOT worse. Protect yourself now.
Brad
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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders!
by enlightenedcynic inearly sunday morning, around 1:30 a.m., my wife wakes me and says that she can't sleep and needs to talk with me.
i say ok and she proceeds to tell me that she wants a seperation.
i was hurt, but not shocked, because our relationship is not that close at this point after 14 yrs of marriage.
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I wouldn't normally suggest that you run to a lawyer, but in this instance, do it, for no other reason than that you have children.
I would advise you to NOT let her do all the leg work in the separation.... she can make false allegations that you will have a tough time to correct, if she starts the proceedings.
The JWs will attempt to keep the children from you, because (in their eyes) if the kids stay with you, they'll be damned at Armageddon.
You're not dealing with rational people here, and you shouldn't expect them to use rational thought.
Brad