Posts by hardtobeme

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Convention Tomorrow...

by freemindfade in

kill me.... it's hard to put into words just how badly i do no want to sit through this 3 days of bull $hit.

i will appreciate any and all words of condolence, humorous, serious, or otherwise.

hardtobeme

Where will it be? Is it Long Beach California???

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Reasoning on the New "1900 Years" JW Theology (from David Splane)

by FusionTheism in

inspired by the three recent threads on david splane's new video declaring, among other things, that there was no faithful slave for 1900 years, and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years, i decided to make this post.. here are the three previous threads on this topic:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/337200001/david-splane-address-bethelites.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/323160001/new-david-splane-video-no-1900-year-faithful-slave.

hardtobeme

Remember, Don't count anything that happened before 1914.

I wonder, if there was not faithful slave until 1919, who gave the spiritual food to the first Christians? The letters that Paul, Peter, James, Judas and John wrote to the congregations and the brothers were not spiritual food at the proper time?

If the faithful and discreet slave is the governing body in our present, who was the governing body in the first century? Wasn't the first century governing body giving directions to the congregations and the preaching work? Who was in charge of feeding the brothers the spiritual food? Was there really a governing body?

According to jwfacts: "whereas the Governing Body was not established until 1971". Who was the faithful and discreet slave from 1919 (the year that supposedly Jesus chose them) till 1971? And by 1919 they weren't aware that Jesus chose them.

So, Jesus is responsible for misleading thousands, or millions of people after he chose the Watchtower. Here is what the Watchtower was teaching by that year:

The "Last Days" started in 17993 and the 1800s were the worst time period of all history
That Jesus presence commenced in 18743
That Jesus had begun ruling in 18784
Armageddon had occurred in 1914
That the end was going to come in 1925
That blood was acceptable as food for Christians
That Jesus should be prayed to and worshipped, as well as Jehovah
That the Great Crowd were a heavenly class
That birthdays and Christmas were acceptable celebrations
The cross was on the cover of the Watchtower
Teachings adapted from Freemasons, such as that pyramids and astrology supported 1914
Strong Zionist support for a new nation of Israel in fulfilment of Bible prophecy
That the Faithful and Discreet Slave was not the anointed, but rather Pastor Russell

Furthermore, the most noteworthy doctrine introduced in 1918 - that the earthly resurrection would start in 1925 - was a false and embarrassing failure.

Is Jesus responsible for promoting those teachings? He cleanse them from 1914 till 1919 when he chose them.

They have created a mess with this teaching. More questions arise than answers.

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What was your eye opening moment?

by WasOnceBlind in

if you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.

i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.

i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.

hardtobeme

All Christians thru the ages were fooled that Jesus died on a cross, till Rutherford figured it out he died on a "Stake".

"According to the World Christian Encyclopedia (1982), it is estimated
that by A.D. 100 there were 1 million Christians in the Roman Empire
out of a population of 181 million. This means that by the end of the
first century less than 1 percent of the population (0.6% to be exact)
was Christian." It looks like Rutherford got the 144,000 wrong too.

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Why don’t we have a better story?

by iconoclastic in

1. some say we are all gods, and god is omnipresent..

2. some say: god created his children who later challenged his sovereignty, who in turn asked his eldest son: go down to the world, do not resist the wicked, but be murdered by them, the value of which will be used to atone the sins of the world..

3. universe arose out of a big bang.

hardtobeme

How about if we are really a Anunnaki experiment?

I have heard that many times, and even watch some videos on youtube.

Look them up.

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The WTBTS "almost" admits the truth.....

by DATA-DOG in

during the wt session, the org admits that the actions of eldubs can cause an eventual shortage of "qualified " brothers, and it has.

they speak of a lack of teaching as the cause.

in reality, it's the legalism and control issues within the org itself that have caused a shortage of men who are willing to reach out.

hardtobeme

I think field service has nothing to do with appointments. I was a regular pioneer for more than 5 years 70+ hours and never was I recommended to be a Ministerial servant. Why you might wonder. Cause I never smelled the elders farts. I never kiss their a$$. Till one of them told me after all those years it was because I never went out for field service on Sundays. What??? Field service on Sundays??? I pointed out that the Organized book never mentions going to field service on Sundays as a requirement. But he told me that it was in a special letter that they have as elders. That the brothers need to "see" you on Sundays in service.

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Apost8News: "Return to Jehovah" Official Literature Release Video - 2015 Convention Lowlight

by cappytan in

again, thanks to wifibandit and pixel for their work behind the scenes.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwzviu3jfko.

hardtobeme

Beautiful loving letter from the GB= we want your money!!!!

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Apost8News: "Return to Jehovah" Official Literature Release Video - 2015 Convention Lowlight

by cappytan in

again, thanks to wifibandit and pixel for their work behind the scenes.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwzviu3jfko.

hardtobeme

Return to Jehovah????

That means: Go to the elders and be officially disfellowshipped= friends, relatives, not even your parents will be allowed to talk to you, not even a "hello".

Now things are worst for you than at the beginning.

That is a "loving arrangement"!!!!

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Out of the horse's mouth

by hardtobeme in

can you be true to god, yet hide the facts?.

would you rather have the truth covered... ?

or do you want to know the facts?.

hardtobeme

Can you be true to God, yet hide the facts?

Would you rather have the truth covered... ? Or do you want to know the facts?

Interesting what the January 15, 1974 Watchtower has to say.

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Governing Body

by Daym123 in

hello,.

i am currently in a discussion with a jw about the governing body.. i have read alot of articles regarding it, however whenever i bring up what i have read, i am refuted with scripture, such as acts 15, where they say there was a governing body, who sent out elders and men etc.. does anyone have a website that i may not know of, that has answers to what they refute with?

or any help here or good thought provoking questions to respond with would be much appreciated.. thank you kindly.

hardtobeme

Ask them who was the "faithful and discreet slave" back then. They might say that the GB acts talk about.

Tell them that there was no faithful and discreet slave in the first century. That whatever they did back then had no relevance cause Jesus didn't appointed them. Jesus had to wait till 1919 to appoint Rutherford and colleagues as the faithful and discreet slave (which they didn't know anything about, neither they didn't know that Jesus came in 1914 and they died without knowing it). And the GB was established till 1971.

They had to cherry pick a scripture to back up what they say. But look carefully in their publications, you will find "The Truth About The Truth" there.

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rejection of your own founder?

by Mr.logic in

what kind of confidence can anyone have in an organization that rejected its founder and first two presidents for the first 63 years of its existence?

that's 53% of the time they existed!

any comments.

hardtobeme

New books with and eraser on the back.

Holy spirit is not tuning good at Brooklyn. Maybe moving out from there they will have a better reception.