i note stillin has had a recent problem with this.
i also know of two cases were an elder went through a brothers phone to get dirt on him.
and another were a sisters email was hacked into to get dirt on her.. in both cases apparently it was for their spiritual protection (!
I know of two elder in the congregation that went thru all of the brothers facebook spying them. They called in on every single one to investigate why they had worldly friends and who were they.
They called on me too. I told them that what they were doing was totally wrong. But they kept on doing it anyways. They are just a bunch of losers!!!!
kill me.... it's hard to put into words just how badly i do no want to sit through this 3 days of bull $hit.
i will appreciate any and all words of condolence, humorous, serious, or otherwise.
inspired by the three recent threads on david splane's new video declaring, among other things, that there was no faithful slave for 1900 years, and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years, i decided to make this post.. here are the three previous threads on this topic:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/337200001/david-splane-address-bethelites.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/323160001/new-david-splane-video-no-1900-year-faithful-slave.
Remember, Don't count anything that happened before 1914.
I wonder, if there was not faithful slave until 1919, who gave the spiritual food to the first Christians? The letters that Paul, Peter, James, Judas and John wrote to the congregations and the brothers were not spiritual food at the proper time?
If the faithful and discreet slave is the governing body in our present, who was the governing body in the first century? Wasn't the first century governing body giving directions to the congregations and the preaching work? Who was in charge of feeding the brothers the spiritual food? Was there really a governing body?
According to jwfacts: "whereas the Governing Body was not established until 1971". Who was the faithful and discreet slave from 1919 (the year that supposedly Jesus chose them) till 1971? And by 1919 they weren't aware that Jesus chose them.
So, Jesus is responsible for misleading thousands, or millions of people after he chose the Watchtower. Here is what the Watchtower was teaching by that year:
Furthermore, the most noteworthy doctrine introduced in 1918 - that the earthly resurrection would start in 1925 - was a false and embarrassing failure.
Is Jesus responsible for promoting those teachings? He cleanse them from 1914 till 1919 when he chose them.
They have created a mess with this teaching. More questions arise than answers.
if you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.
i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.
i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.
All Christians thru the ages were fooled that Jesus died on a cross, till Rutherford figured it out he died on a "Stake".
"According to the World Christian Encyclopedia (1982), it is estimated that by A.D. 100 there were 1 million Christians in the Roman Empire out of a population of 181 million. This means that by the end of the first century less than 1 percent of the population (0.6% to be exact) was Christian." It looks like Rutherford got the 144,000 wrong too.
1. some say we are all gods, and god is omnipresent..
2. some say: god created his children who later challenged his sovereignty, who in turn asked his eldest son: go down to the world, do not resist the wicked, but be murdered by them, the value of which will be used to atone the sins of the world..
3. universe arose out of a big bang.
How about if we are really a Anunnaki experiment?
I have heard that many times, and even watch some videos on youtube.
Look them up.
during the wt session, the org admits that the actions of eldubs can cause an eventual shortage of "qualified " brothers, and it has.
they speak of a lack of teaching as the cause.
in reality, it's the legalism and control issues within the org itself that have caused a shortage of men who are willing to reach out.
again, thanks to wifibandit and pixel for their work behind the scenes.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwzviu3jfko.
again, thanks to wifibandit and pixel for their work behind the scenes.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwzviu3jfko.
Return to Jehovah????
That means: Go to the elders and be officially disfellowshipped= friends, relatives, not even your parents will be allowed to talk to you, not even a "hello".
Now things are worst for you than at the beginning.
That is a "loving arrangement"!!!!
can you be true to god, yet hide the facts?.
would you rather have the truth covered... ?
or do you want to know the facts?.
Can you be true to God, yet hide the facts?
Would you rather have the truth covered... ? Or do you want to know the facts?
Interesting what the January 15, 1974 Watchtower has to say.
hello,.
i am currently in a discussion with a jw about the governing body.. i have read alot of articles regarding it, however whenever i bring up what i have read, i am refuted with scripture, such as acts 15, where they say there was a governing body, who sent out elders and men etc.. does anyone have a website that i may not know of, that has answers to what they refute with?
or any help here or good thought provoking questions to respond with would be much appreciated.. thank you kindly.
Ask them who was the "faithful and discreet slave" back then. They might say that the GB acts talk about.
Tell them that there was no faithful and discreet slave in the first century. That whatever they did back then had no relevance cause Jesus didn't appointed them. Jesus had to wait till 1919 to appoint Rutherford and colleagues as the faithful and discreet slave (which they didn't know anything about, neither they didn't know that Jesus came in 1914 and they died without knowing it). And the GB was established till 1971.
They had to cherry pick a scripture to back up what they say. But look carefully in their publications, you will find "The Truth About The Truth" there.
