Posts by darkspilver

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Australian Jehovah's Witnesses are ignorant of the Australian Royal Commission

by stuckinarut2 in

many here have asked how the average witness in australia is taking the news of the arc findings and conclusions.. is it affecting them?.

sorry to say, hardly any are even aware of the facts.

those that are, have been convinced that all the publicity is "apostate lies and satanic propaganda".

darkspilver

Hi jwleaks!

smiddy: How many Australian Newspapers have reported this report by the ARC ? about the Jehovahs Witness religion ?
It has not been reported as far as I know by the Herald Sun a victorian newspaper
Here you go smiddy
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/children-not-protected-by-jehovahs-rc/news-story/5e84e2d542419856e8e2cf3c6a2843a0

It has NOT been reported in the Herald Sun print edition, either yesterday, Tuesday 29 November 2016 (front page headline - War of Roses - Reservoir Tragedy), or today Wednesday 30 November 2016 (front page headline - Dad Left to Die - Asthma Storm Crisis)

Interestingly, in today's paper (Wed 30 Nov 2016) there is a small item at the top right hand side of page 19 headlined "Sex abuse hits soccer" regarding the on-going historical child sex abuse investigation in UK's youth soccer
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FYI: "Leah Remini's Anti-Scientology Documentary on A&E is scorching." Airs Tuesday the 29th, etc.

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

leah remini’s anti-scientology doc: former celeb wrangler admits how tom cruise was “surrounded” and isolated.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/11/23/leah-reminis-anti-scientology-doc-former-celeb-wrangler-admits-how-tom-cruise-was-surrounded-and-isolated.

"leah remini’s anti-scientology documentary on a&e is scorching.

darkspilver

Review from The Hollywood Reporter

Interesting, but unlikely to generate a following

I was being steadily distracted by what I can only assume was a behind-the-scenes clearance process of epic proportions. On the screener I watched, each programming segment was preceded by a title card reading "The Church disputes many of the statements made by those appearing in this program," directing viewers to additional information on the A&E website, while several segments were also preceded by specific denials from the Church of Scientology, text from official letters sent as recently as early November. Back when things were shot on film, a movie delivered straight from the developer to the projection booth was described as being wet, and were that idiom still relevant, it would surely apply to Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath, which is engrossing, but probably not as captivating as what's taking place to get the show to air.
The "Coming up this season ..." reel features Remini saying, "We're hearing the same story over and over again," and that's honestly my fear when it comes to eight episodes of Scientology and the Aftermath.
Read the full 1200 word review:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/leah-remini-scientology-aftermath-review-950854

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Warwick and Walkill

by Lynnie in

just curious on what big differences there are between the two compounds?

i've seen that warwick is the world headquarters now so what is wallkill called?.

have cousins that just moved from walkill to warwick, apparently they have a deluxe apartment now.

darkspilver

Hi Lynnie!

Just curious on what big differences there are between the two compounds?

According to:

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/offices/united-states/

Patterson: Creates artwork for our publications as well as audio and video recordings. Tour highlights Bible schools that are taught here.

Wallkill: Prints over 25 million pieces of Bible literature annually. Ships literature in more than 360 languages to branches worldwide as well as to more than 15,000 congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the United States, Canada, and the Caribbean.

Warwick : Three Self-Guided Exhibits: The Bible and the Divine Name; A People for Jehovah’s Name; and World Headquarters—Faith in Action. A 20-minute Guided tour highlights sections of the Offices/Services Building and the Warwick grounds.

Although it hasn't been updated, yet, the following tour brochure explains a bit more, including some of the history of Patterson and Walkill:

https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_cmsassets/d5/fo_s-Us_E.pdf

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Jehovah's Witnesses did not protect children from abuse, inquiry finds.

by pale.emperor in

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/28/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-protect-children-from-abuse-inquiry-finds.

im printing this off and spending my next sunday morning doing some door to door work posting this article through all the letter boxes of the street my local kh is on.. it's shocking that none of the r&f know about this.

i have a feeling that the 2 witness rule will be revised in 2017 and made to look like it was jehovah's proper time.

darkspilver

Hi OrphanCrow!

I am not surprised.
The JWs make up a tiny, tiny portion of the world's population and they are an insular group that the rest of the world cares little about.

Well, firstly The Guardian took time to include it on their website - many newspapers worldwide, haven't even done that.

Actually though The Guardian has one of the smallest print circulation of any UK daily newspaper with around 160,000 daily copies - in comparision to the 225,584 people who turned up for the JW Memorial in Britain last year. But I digress

The Guardian has traditionally been the newspaper of choice for those who either work or have an interest in the 'public sector' including professional health care workers and social workers etc - that's the very audience that would probably be amongst the most interested in the ARC hearings.

The Guardian also just seem to have 'form' when it comes to reporting on the JWs

Which newspaper broke the JW / UN Membership scandal? And not just the one article in the print newspaper, but with two follow up articles in the printed newspaper too?

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php

And what about that huge three page article The Guardian printed back in July 2015? "Preaching to the unconverted"

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FYI: "Leah Remini's Anti-Scientology Documentary on A&E is scorching." Airs Tuesday the 29th, etc.

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

leah remini’s anti-scientology doc: former celeb wrangler admits how tom cruise was “surrounded” and isolated.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/11/23/leah-reminis-anti-scientology-doc-former-celeb-wrangler-admits-how-tom-cruise-was-surrounded-and-isolated.

"leah remini’s anti-scientology documentary on a&e is scorching.

darkspilver

Review from the LA Times

'Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath' is a compelling, if unsophisticated, investigation of church

In recent years the church, founded by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, has spawned a cottage industry of journalistic exposes and jaw-dropping memoirs in which former devotees allege abusive, cult-like behavior and outlandish beliefs.
At this point, Scientology is as much an active religion as it is fodder for the various juicy tell-alls that have familiarized readers of People magazine with once-obscure concepts like Operating Thetans and the Bridge to Total Freedom.
Unlike Alex Gibney’s Going Clear (HBO), this series is a strictly basic-cable affair that relies on some regrettable reality-TV conventions. There are hokey re-creations, lots of generic stock footage, an interview with Remini that has the look and feel of a “Real Housewives” confessional and superfluous montages highlighting the drama in episodes ahead.
Remini comes off as authentic, even if “Scientology and the Aftermath” can also seem self-serving. (Her name is in the title, after all.) Remini may have paid a price for speaking out but leaving the church has also undeniably boosted her visibility.
And however well-intentioned Remini seems to be, there’s something a tad ironic about an investigation of a celebrity-driven cult that plays like a star vehicle.
Read the full 790 word unedited review:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/la-et-st-leah-remini-scientology-review-20161129-story.html

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Jehovah's Witnesses did not protect children from abuse, inquiry finds.

by pale.emperor in

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/28/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-protect-children-from-abuse-inquiry-finds.

im printing this off and spending my next sunday morning doing some door to door work posting this article through all the letter boxes of the street my local kh is on.. it's shocking that none of the r&f know about this.

i have a feeling that the 2 witness rule will be revised in 2017 and made to look like it was jehovah's proper time.

darkspilver

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/28/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-protect-children-from-abuse-inquiry-finds
Im printing this off and spending my next Sunday morning doing some door to door work posting this article through all the letter boxes of the street my local KH is on.

It's shortly after lunchtime on Tuesday in London, UK

And what have the quinoa eating, middle-class leftists of Camden, Islington and Shoreditch been reading over lunch? <j/k>

The Guardian Newspaper, Tuesday 29 November 2016 - and the front page features a picture-lead headline: "‘Have your cake and eat it’ – is this the Tory Brexit plan?" The second headline is: "Abuse coach in hospital as police widen investigation" (there's a relatively recent and ongoing story about sexual abuse in English youth football)

The story about the Australian Royal Commission does NOT appear to feature ANYWHERE in today's 42-page print edition (74-pages if you include the Sports and G2 inserts).

Must say, I am surprised - would have thought that the Guardian at least would have printed something in their newspaper, oh well - maybe they're holding back in order to run a longer and in-depth account of the ARC / JW proceedings like The Washington Post?? But who knows??

BUT what is certain is what Hecce warned us about last week when a major article exposing the JW's was printed in Spain....

The elders are receiving electronically instructions from the COs to go out and buy from the stands all the copies of this newspaper edition.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5178541199065088/_post/4795923232194560

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Washington Post is carrying the story: Australian Jehovah’s Witnesses protected over a thousand members accused of child abuse, report says

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/28/australian-jehovahs-witnesses-protected-over-a-thousand-members-accused-of-child-abuse-report-says/.

over the course of about six decades, more than 1,000 members of the jehovah’s witnesses were accused of sexually abusing australian children, according to a new report.

victims were ordered to keep quiet.

darkspilver

It's shortly after 7.15am on Tuesday morning in Washington DC, US

And what are the citizens of Washington DC waking up to? What are they reading in their newspaper over breakfast? or on their commute to work?....

The Washington Post Newspaper, Tuesday 29 November 2016 - and the front page headline features two picture-lead stories - firstly "Dutifully mourning Castro - The loyal, and the obliged, honor patriarch of Cuba’s ‘Revolution’" - and the second feature headline is "11 hurt in Ohio State attack; campus police kill assailant."

The story about the Australian Royal Commission does NOT appear to feature ANYWHERE in today's 58-page print edition.

BUT - and we'll know how big a 'but' that is this weekend..... The Washington Post has a weekly 'Religion' feature each Saturday - so maybe they're holding back in order to compile a more in-depth article / exposé for this coming Saturday, 3 December 2016?.....

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Washington Post is carrying the story: Australian Jehovah’s Witnesses protected over a thousand members accused of child abuse, report says

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/28/australian-jehovahs-witnesses-protected-over-a-thousand-members-accused-of-child-abuse-report-says/.

over the course of about six decades, more than 1,000 members of the jehovah’s witnesses were accused of sexually abusing australian children, according to a new report.

victims were ordered to keep quiet.

darkspilver

Hi smiddy

how is the Washington Post Newspaper regarded in mainstream america?
Is it widely distributed ,read by many americans across the country ?

Have you heard of the Watergate Scandal? You know, Richard Nixon and all that stuff. Maybe you've seen the film? All The President's Men? But, yeah, that was like over 40 years ago. Today The Washington Post is now owned by Jeff 'amazon . com' Bezos.

AUS: The Daily Telegraph (Print): Jehovah‘s fail young

by darkspilver in

it's now just past 8.15am on tuesday morning in sydney, australia.

the daily telegraph (sydney) newspaper, tuesday 29 november 2016 - and the front page headline screams: ""splash & burn - cash meant for hero volunteers goes up in smoke.".

on page 11, in the middle of the far left-hand side column (ie next to the middle fold), and on a page some what dominated by an almost full page article title "scurvy ahoy!

darkspilver

It's now just past 8.15am on Tuesday morning in Sydney, Australia

The Daily Telegraph (Sydney) Newspaper, Tuesday 29 November 2016 - and the front page headline screams: ""Splash & Burn - Cash meant for hero volunteers goes up in smoke."

On page 11, in the middle of the far left-hand side column (ie next to the middle fold), and on a page some what dominated by an almost full page article title "Scurvy Ahoy!" (which is flagged up on the front page BTW) and illustrated by a rather dominating picture/painting of the Commander of the First Fllet Captain Arthur Philip is the following headline and article:

Jehovah‘s fail young
Children are not adequately protected from the risk of sexual abuse in the Jehovah’s Witnesses, a royal commission has found.
The organisation relies on outdated policies and practices, including a 2000-year-old two-witness rule, and its weak internal sanctions leave perpetrators at large, the child abuse royal commission said.
The commission found the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ general practice was to not report child sex abuse allegations, a serious failure to provide for the safety and protection of children.
The commission said the organisation relied on outdated policies and practices that were, by and large, wholly inappropriate and unsuitable in child sex abuse cases.

The above print article does not seem to appear online on their website which instead is running the following, more in-depth and longer article:

Jehovah's Witnesses children at risk: RC
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/children-not-protected-by-jehovahs-rc/news-story/5e84e2d542419856e8e2cf3c6a2843a0

AUS: The Australian Newspaper (Print): Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘fail on abuse’

by darkspilver in

it's now just past 7.30am on tuesday morning in sydney, australia.

and what are australians are waking up to?

what are they reading in their newspaper over breakfast?

darkspilver

It's now just past 7.30am on Tuesday morning in Sydney, Australia

And what are Australians are waking up to? What are they reading in their newspaper over breakfast? or on their commute to work?....

The Australian Newspaper, Tuesday 29 November 2016 - and the front page headline screams: "Unions run riot to kill deal."

Somewhat buried and squashed down right at the bottom and on the right-hand side of page seven is the rather small headline:

Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘fail on abuse’
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/in-depth/royal-commission/jehovahs-witnesses-fail-on-abuse-says-royal-commission/news-story/b293e74e577719244fa72333f5fedff1?nk=dfe79657c9e6c875e2ca1b97782acd07-1480361888

The print article seems to be the same as the online version linked to above.

For context, in the print newspaper, the above article appears next to another, that is headlined Court accepts sex crimes happened but accused walks