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UK Kingdom Halls for sale

by darkspilver in

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" and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !

sell !

darkspilver

Kingdom Hall, rear of Field Street, Penygraig, Rhondda
Web: http://www.barbararees.com/property_detail1.php?id=875
PDF: http://www.barbararees.com/images/pdf_875.pdf
Still on sale

apparently still on sale, with a price reduction....

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What Irony! Another Hall Closure!

by freddo in

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friends

note these excerpts from awake!

articles: (bold italics mine).

*** g93 9/8 pp.

darkspilver

Thank you for your post

We discussed this KH - amongst a number others which where all for sale - last year, here:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6221836369002496/_post/4845123793846272

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any contractors here that can give an educated estimate of what warwick cost?

by nowwhat? in

just wonderin'.

darkspilver

$640 million US Dollars, for building construction only, excluding the external landscape, any specialized ground-works and costs to buy the land.

Not a 'contractor' here, but let's crunch some numbers!!

Considering that it's a mixed development - I suppose the residential parts would cost more than than the warehousing - and it's in NY State, rather than NY City

So how about saying $400-per-square-foot?

New York remains the costliest construction market in the U.S. and far outpaces other cities internationally. According to the report, building an office building in the city can cost roughly $550 per square foot, whereas a similar building in Berlin would run $174 per square foot and $365 in London.
https://therealdeal.com/2017/02/09/nyc-construction-costs-jumped-4-in-2016-report/

And there is 1.6 million square feet

Those that will be living at the 1.6 million square-foot world headquarters will start moving in this September, with the entire Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society slowly moving out of Brooklyn, the organization's location since 1909.
http://www.warwickadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20160609/NEWS01/160609936/0/subscribe-community/Jehovah%27s-Witnesses-new-world-HQ-nearly-complete

so $400 x 1,600,000 square feet = $640,000,000

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JW Bethel asks for a million euros to be paid to avoid courtroom

by darkspilver in

from cronica (spain).

jehovah's witnesses 'plugged' a one million euro entrepreneurial hole.

the cult asked to maintain the "peace" of a congregation in galicia to avoid that the case of emptying of the company reached civil justice.. jws asked to hide a million-euro business hole at a supply company in la coruña (galicia).

darkspilver

"there is no public basis for establishing that fraud has been committed".

Below is a copy of the letter from the Spanish Bethel (via google translate)

28 February 2017
Subject: Financial matters affecting the XXX
In response to your letter of January 3, 2017, addressed to the Branch Committee, write to us on the 9th of that month, which indicated that the next visit of the circuit superintendent would discuss the issues you raised . After his visit and the meeting with all those involved. The circuit superintendent has sent us his conclusions. Based on these we are pleased to offer you the following comments.
The brothers indicate that "there is no public basis for establishing that fraud has been committed". Because brother XXX and his wife, XXX decided to sell the ship, owned by them, in order to "try to clean up the debts being honest and transparent[s]", so you can not continue with the process Of Matthew 18: 15-17. The one that, later. Brother XXX decided to help XXX in the formation of a new family business, we understand that it is a personal and familiar matter, in which the congregation must be kept out.
We trust that the conversation with the circuit superintendent has helped you to find a peaceful and friendly solution. Dear XXX do not question our criteria for what happened. But seeing the effect that this might have on the relations with your family, the brothers of the congregation and even your spirituality, do not you believe that "the price" that is being paid by all those involved could be much higher That the value that the possessions for which you are litigating could have? In First Corinthians 6: 7 it says, "Truly, then, it is a complete defeat for you who are having litigation with one another: why do not they rather let them do injustice to them? That defraud them? " With these words, Jehovah reminds us that priorities must sometimes be set in our lives. Is money and our rights, or the peace and unity of the family and the congregation, more important to us? What do we value more, money or our spirituality? Does it compensate for everything we strive to achieve if, after that, we leave pain and open wounds? We are sure that as Christians you want to do things the way Jehovah does. You will strive to follow these and other advice that will have been offered, knowing that the love that we feel for you motivates them. Therefore, unless new and clear evidence arises, we give this matter as closed.

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Press in SPAIN report JW members go to JW headquarters to file a complaint for not receiving documents on cases of abuse they requested

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.lainformacion.com/politica/derechos-humanos/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_990801892.html.

http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/sociedad/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_2308950586.html.

https://okdiario.com/sociedad/2017/01/16/ex-miembros-testigos-jehova-acusan-organizacion-ocultar-ley-miles-casos-abusos-sexuales-menores-671613jehovah's witness members will report to the organization for failing to provide them with documents regarding child abuse.

darkspilver

This is a copy of the OFFICIAL COMPLAINT made to the Civic Guard (via google translate):

In PARACUELLOS DE JARAMA (Madrid), at 13:40, on January 16, 2017, acting as Instructor of the present proceedings the agent of the Civil Guard with Professional Identity Card (TIP) W35545H, hereby It is noted that:
COMPARECE D. ISRAEL XXXX (NIF (DNI) XXXX, born in MADRID (Madrid), Spain, on 12-03-1974, son of ANTONINO and GREGORIA, domiciled in Calle XXXX Local la Montañesa de Toledo (Toledo), Mobile phone XXXX
SHARING: D. MIGUEL XXXX (NIF (DNI): XXXX, born 06-07-1974, son of JOSE ANTONIO and JULIA AMELIANA, with address at Avinguda XXXX BADALONA (Barcelona).
ASKED to tell you how the facts have been developed DECLARES:
- In this act, the respondent is informed that the copy of this document that is now handed to him, has only the value of having filed the complaint under Article 268 of the Criminal Procedure Law and therefore does not certify Certain or true the denounced facts.
- In accordance with the provisions of Article 284 of Law 41/2015, of October 5, amending the Criminal Procedure Law, in accordance with the right recognized in Article 6 of Law 4 / 2015, of April 27, of the Statute of the Victim of Crime, the complainant is informed that in case the author is not identified within 72 hours, the proceedings will not be referred to the Judicial Authority, without prejudice to their right To reiterate the complaint to the Prosecutor's Office or the Court of Instruction.
- He has also been informed of his legal obligation to tell the truth (Art. 433 of LeCrim) and of the possible criminal responsibility he may incur in the case of falsely accusing or imputing a person a criminal offense (Art. (Article 457 of the Criminal Code), to denounce a false or non-existent criminal offense (Art. 457 of the Criminal Code) or to fail to acknowledge the truth in its case. Testimony (Art. 458 of the Penal Code).
- In compliance with the Organic Law 15/1999 on Personal Data Protection, you are informed that your data will be incorporated into the INTPOL file of the Directorate General of the Civil Guard (Civil Guard area), whose purpose is maintenance Of citizen security. If you wish, you can exercise the rights of access, rectification, cancellation and opposition provided by the Law, directing written to the Directorate General of the Civil Guard. C / Guzmán el Bueno n ° 110, C.P. 28003 from Madnd.
-In case of LOSS / EXTRAVY / FINDING of documentation, the interested party should contact the agency responsible for issuing the document, to confirm that it has not been canceled, which could lead to conflict, especially in case of departure to foreign countries.
That they appear in these dependencies the above reviewed to file a complaint, both as denouncers of the same event, which occurred today, in Ajalvir (M).
That the complainant D. Miguel XXXX (XXXX) has initiated criminal proceedings in the Unit of Mossos de Esquadra of Badalona with number 744602/2016 for sexual abuse against his person.
That the denouncer D. Israel XXXX (XXXX) has initiated criminal proceedings in the Command of the Civil Guard of Toledo. Being carried by the Captain Matias, not having at present number of diligences.
Both procedures are relative to Sexual Abuse towards minors.
Both complainants requested the National Headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses. Located in Ajalvir (M) by means of burofax, that from the day of January 16, 2016, they would go to collect the documentation, records and annotations that would have in relation to them in that seat.
Informing them that if they were not handed over, they wanted to receive from a person with sufficient power a signed document where they proceeded to destroy all documents where there was information concerning both complainants, as well as to withdraw any information regarding They had been ceded or given to other institutions.
That all these documents are related to the judicial processes mentioned above.
That the complainants filed today, at 11:45 am, at the said Headquarters, being attended by a named Edgar, who is at the reception, and who has been calling to different departments. That after a time this person, has informed them that they were not going to deliver anything at that time and that they would receive a response to the burofax.
That these Burofax were sent to Headquarters on 09/01/2017 so they have had more than enough time to respond but have not done so.
And for the record, the present signature is signed by the declarant, after having read it for himself, together with the Instruction Force and other interveners.

http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/testigos-jehova-despachan-vicitimas-abusos_66517_102.html

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Carts Everywhere In Japan!

by disillusioned 2 in

i am on holiday in tokyo at the moment.

before i came my sister informed me that i would see witnesses at the airports and outside all of the train stations.

keeping in touch on facebook she asked me how many witnesses i had seen on my travels.

darkspilver

disillusioned 2: said that they had been told that the Japenese witnesses were very zealous and were always out witnessing.

Yes, Japanese JWs are around 65% more zealous than American JWs

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Prince's Ex-Wife Tells All

by darkspilver in

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in people magazine, 27 march 2017 edition.

exclusive excerpt from mayte garcia's shocking new memoir.

http://people.com/music/prince-mayte-garcia-would-have-stayed-together-son-amiir-death/.

darkspilver

In People magazine, 27 March 2017 edition

Exclusive excerpt from Mayte Garcia's shocking new memoir

http://people.com/music/prince-mayte-garcia-would-have-stayed-together-son-amiir-death/

Posted 08:28 EDT Friday, 17 March 2017
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5714189639221248/_post/4853049837223936

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New teaching =There was no "Faithful slave" for 1900 years until Charles Russell!!

by Witness 007 in

shocking video from jw.org shows the "new light" that there was no slave class handing out spiritual food for 1900 years!!

so the original governing body became apostate and fell apart.

charles russell re-started the faithful slave even though the watchtower admits he learned everything he ever knew from the "second adventists".

darkspilver

lusitano o tuga: it was shocking - Gilson Marques of brazilian branch committe said that for Jesus (jesus thought according him) the preaching was (and is ) more important than the ransom. He cited Matthew Chapter 20 versicle 28 and made fallcious commentaries about the text!

Not new??

For example:

Watchtower 15 January 1961, page 36

All quite true, but these are but the most elementary things. We must advance to an appreciation of his chief purpose for coming to earth and what he requires of his followers in addition to their believing on him. What was the chief purpose for which he came to earth? As he told Pilate: “For this purpose I have been born and for this purpose I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” Witnessing came first with him; providing salvation for man was secondary.—John 18:37.

Watchtower 1 September 1991, page 18

Jesus himself told Pontius Pilate that his main purpose in coming to earth was to communicate the truth to mankind: “For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” (John 18:37)

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