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  The West Australian: Jehovah Witness charged with historic child sex offences

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/jehovah-witness-charged-with-historic-child-sex-offences-ng-b88453246z.

  jehovah witness charged with historic child sex offences.

  friday, 21 april 2017 3:11am.

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  As reported in a previous post the man was not charged even though he confessed to child services for the province. The elders disfellowshiped him and that was his only punishment. The police did not charge him with a crime.

  Which other report???

  Puzzling - I though the two reports where about different people? I didn't think it was bad journalism?

  I understand that:
  

  The OP on this thread is: 72-year-old / 1979-82 / 11-year-old / Katanning Congregation

  The 'other' (linked below) is: 69-year-old / 1977-79 / 8-year-old / West Burleigh Congregation

  http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/authorities-ignored-gold-coast-photographers-child-sex-crimes-20170413-gvkdx9.html
  
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  Australia - Brisbane Times: Authorities ignored Gold Coast photographer's child sex crimes

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/authorities-ignored-gold-coast-photographers-child-sex-crimes-20170413-gvkdx9.html.

  april 13 2017 .

  authorities ignored gold coast photographer's child sex crimes .

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  What this handling by the JWS does is say hey pedophiles try your luck at the JWS religion, if you get caught all they're going to do will do is not talk to you and wont call the police.

  The problem here seems to be that, according to the newspaper, the perpetrator himself confessed to the Department of Child Services but they took no action.
  

  After the girl's mother discovered his abuse, Sawden first confessed to his local church and also admitted he had committed the offences to the Department of Child Services sometime between 1981 and 1982, the court was told.

  Despite those revelations, no police investigation into Sawden's activities was launched at the time.

  http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/authorities-ignored-gold-coast-photographers-child-sex-crimes-20170413-gvkdx9.html
  
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  Marc & Cora on YouTube causing unnecessary divisions

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is it with this pair?

  why do they have to constantly have a bitch about guys like john cedars?

  a very recent video of them shows them calling him a 'village idiot' and making other disparaging claims.

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  FYI - this is the flowchart:

  https://twitter.com/cedarsjwsurvey/status/851370713529319424
  

  
  
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  Bearded students on Ministry school?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so at last nights ministry school we had 2...yes that's right two that had parts and gave them with beards.. i found it interesting.

  i thought the consensus was that you couldn't have any extra privileges if you wore one.. maybe the school is different?.

  anyway, anybody else seen this in the u.s.?.

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  As recently as October 7, 1949, the new east window of Stepney Parish Church, the mother church of East London, England, was unveiled by the Earl of Athlone. The photograph of this church window, as published in "The Illustrated London News," October 1, 1949, shows a cross with a young man nailed to it, beardless and with short hair, to represent "Christ crucified, but triumphant."

  Thanks - interesting
  

  Artist was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Ray_Easton

  The Church is: http://www.stdunstanstepney.com/photos-building.html
  

  (the website wrongly says it is the West Window )

  
  
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  Bearded students on Ministry school?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so at last nights ministry school we had 2...yes that's right two that had parts and gave them with beards.. i found it interesting.

  i thought the consensus was that you couldn't have any extra privileges if you wore one.. maybe the school is different?.

  anyway, anybody else seen this in the u.s.?.

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  NikL: Maybe the school is different?
  

  Yes, by the very nature of it being a 'school'

  Whereas you would need to be 'exemplary' to be used on the 'service meeting' for demonstrations, or to auxiliary pioneer etc

  The requirement for the TMS was not as high - though most publishers/elders didn't really realise
  

  Benefit from Schhol Book, page 282

  Guidelines for School Overseers

  Enrolling Students. Encourage all publishers to enroll in the school. Others who are actively associating with the congregation may enroll if they agree with the teachings of the Bible and their life is in harmony with Christian principles. When someone expresses a desire to enroll, warmly commend him. If the person is not yet a publisher, you as the school overseer should discuss with him the requirements for enrollment in the school, preferably doing so in the presence of the one who is conducting a Bible study with him (or in the presence of a believing parent). These requirements are the same as for a person to become an unbaptized publisher. They are found on pages 97 to 99 of Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry. Keep an up-to-date list of all who are enrolled in the school.

  The exception to this would be 'school' parts when presented as part of an Assembly such as at a Circuit Assembly - in this case the 'student's would then need to be exemplary - ie their BoE would be happy for them to auxiliary pioneer.

  I do think though that that recent WT article has created a 'bit-of-an-issue' - I don't believe the actual policy has changed though, it's just that the GB has reiterated the old policy in a 'current' WT magazine, so have brought it to the attention of publishers....
  
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  Who keeps the data of the 110,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain?

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new interesting article.... a group of former members denounce "breaches" of the protection law; the congregation emphasizes that it complies with the norms.

  spanish: http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html.

  english: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html&usg=alkjrhg84wp4qeizkmlijx_wtdrzx-zg9a.

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  Hi Crazyguy

  I think sp74bb just wants the summary judicial details, that the BoE's keep for future reference, to be destroyed - which would mean they would be lost forever, and cases like child abuse can't then be followed up.
  
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  warwick is having an open house! here is your chance people

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  don't know which saturday it is but it's an open house for the surrounding community.

  while on the your tour group , ask tough questions about the organization's policies on pedophiles and shunning.

  do this as a concerned citizen and not a "raging apostate" .

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  Calebs Airplane: - $274,000,000 (Cost of building New Warwick HDQ)

  how did you calculate that?

  the below doesn't include costs for landscaping (which ain't cheap, especially if you need decent roadways for lorries) and major works on lakes etc etc:
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4834097220288512/_post/5183766613983232
  
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  So, any comments from the Memorial?

  by NewYork44M in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perhaps i missed the comments, but i did not see a lot of comments from, or about, the memorial.

  it happened last night, right?.

  in years past the jwn board was hot with comments.

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  FYI

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PulicvUCtSE
  
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  JW Trolley Caption Competition

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just saw this profile pic in facebook.

  made me chuckle.

  https://www.facebook.com/eleanorconwayuk/photos/gm.119963091878435/10154964287646233/?type=3&theater.

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  Yes, it's taken in Bishopsgate, London, which runs along side Liverpool Street Station, looking northwards (ie away from 'the city') - the modern office block/tower in the middle is the RBS headquarters at 250 BIshopsgate
  

  https://goo.gl/maps/5s32C5ZPGLL2

  http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=2498
  

  

  
  
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  UK Memorial attendances up this year?!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my congregation had around 25 more people at the memorial last night than last year, and the two other congregations i have family in all experienced a similar increase in about 25 more people present.

  umm, i'm surprised, having thought this year would see a memorial decline again.

  and i'm kind of disappointed..

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  jambon1: A bit similar to how they all dropped in 1976 once it dawned on people that the organisation had led them down the garden path with another false prediction regarding 1975.

  Sorry, overall worldwide apparently not...

  a very small decrease in 1978 though

  1970 = 3,226,168
  1971 = 3,453,542
  1972 = 3,662,407
  1973 = 3,994,924
  1974 = 4,550,457
  1975 = 4,925,643
  1976 = 4,972,571
  1977 = 5,107,518
  1978 = 5,095,831
  1979 = 5,323,766
  1980 = 5,726,656

  FYI I believe, over the last 80 years, the only years to report an overall worldwide year-on-year decrease in attendance are

  1978
  1996
  1998
  2005
  2012
  2015