Posts by darkspilver

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June 27, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Donations to Regional Conventions Using jw.org

by wifibandit in

june 27, 2017 to all congregations in britain and northern ireland re: donations to regional conventions using jw.org.

june 27, 2017 to all congregations in ireland re: donations to regional conventions using jw.org.

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darkspilver

AverageJoe1: I've just noticed that the UK letterhead has changed; no mention of The Watchtower at all! Is this due to the current UK Charity Commission investigation? Have they changed the name of their financial side of the organisation again?

No. I don't believe it is anything like that at all - but cool for picking it up.

As I understand it, in the UK it is specifically the IBSA - the International Bible Students Association - that arranges the annual conventions, rather that the 'Watch Tower'.

Proof?

The International Bible Students Association Report of the Trustees for the Year Ended 31st August 2016 specifically highlights that they arrange convention a number of times in the report:

http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends47/0000216647_AC_20160831_E_C.PDF

I don't believe the equivalent Watch Tower Trustees Report actually mentions the conventions at all:

http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends61/0001077961_AC_20160831_E_C.PDF

In addition, below is a photo of a couple of example convention programmes that clearly state that they are 'arranged and directed by the International Bible Students Association.'

AverageJoe1: How come there is a different letterhead for Ireland? That branch doesn't even exist anymore as far as I'm aware!

Good question.

See: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4753511818461184/_post/5922414816919552

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1950- present PDF Scans of original mailed or literature counter, WTs ?

by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

i think these exist ?

has someone created pdf scans of original mailed or literature counter wts?

or have copies of those pdf's?.

darkspilver

TheOldHippie: Oh yeah? Give examples of what articles

Oh yeah!

It almost sounds like you don't believe darkspilver

I'll get some examples together for you

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1950- present PDF Scans of original mailed or literature counter, WTs ?

by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

i think these exist ?

has someone created pdf scans of original mailed or literature counter wts?

or have copies of those pdf's?.

darkspilver

As most know the year end bound volumes contained changes and certainly the WTLIBs do.

Actually, compared to the 'individual' magazines - the 'bound volumes' (and CD-ROM) have ENTIRE articles missing

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Cross-dressing Jehovah's Witness raped and molested girl

by cobweb in

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/cross-dressing-jehovahs-witness-raped-13311020.

a cross-dressing jehovah’s witness raped and molested a girl while making her wear adult women’s clothes.. david fuge, 69, wore dresses and silky underwear when he repeatedly abused his blindfolded victim from the age of eight to 19.. .

liverpool crown court heard he gagged her and on one occasion tied a belt around her neck and left her hanging from a hook in a room.. he photographed the child naked, made her read pornographic magazines, beat her with a piece of wood and abused her at a golf course.. .

darkspilver

The Wirral Globe (more local to the actual area) gives some background to the extra 'year on licence' (emphasis added)

Liverpool Echo, 10 July 2017
Judge Norman Wright jailed Fuge for 17 years with an extended year on licence.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/cross-dressing-jehovahs-witness-raped-13311020

Wirral Globe, 10 July 2017
The judge imposed an extra year’s licence as he is classed as a person of particular concern.
http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/15401699.17_year_sentence_for_Wirral_man_who_sexually_abused_young_girl/

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Cross-dressing Jehovah's Witness raped and molested girl

by cobweb in

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/cross-dressing-jehovahs-witness-raped-13311020.

a cross-dressing jehovah’s witness raped and molested a girl while making her wear adult women’s clothes.. david fuge, 69, wore dresses and silky underwear when he repeatedly abused his blindfolded victim from the age of eight to 19.. .

liverpool crown court heard he gagged her and on one occasion tied a belt around her neck and left her hanging from a hook in a room.. he photographed the child naked, made her read pornographic magazines, beat her with a piece of wood and abused her at a golf course.. .

darkspilver

Splash: List of elders for the Wallasey South congregation. This offender was not one of them.

Who said he was an elder?? I don't believe the article says he was?

SIDE NOTE: The Charity Commission website, listing the trustess, can be updated at any time by the individual charities - I believe the website is then automatically updated over-night to publicly display the new information the following day.

I believe the WT letter guidance tells congreagtions that they should keep it up-to-date (new elders, elders move-in, elders move-out, elders removed) - BUT most forget and only update it in January each year when they need to log in an submit their annual returns.

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BBC News: Contaminated blood scandal inquiry announced (Expect Some JW Propaganda Over This!!)

by pale.emperor in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40566761.

an inquiry will be held into the contaminated blood scandal that left at least 2,400 people dead, the prime minister has confirmed.. it will establish the causes of the "appalling injustice" that took place in the 1970s and 1980s.

nhs patients were given blood products that were infected with diseases, such as hepatitis c and hiv.. families of those who died will be consulted about what form the inquiry should take.. it could be a public hillsborough-style inquiry or a judge-led statutory inquiry, prime minister theresa may confirmed.. the prime minister's spokesman said: "it is a tragedy that has caused immeasurable hardship and pain for all those affected and a full inquiry to establish the truth of what happened is the right course of action to take.. "it is going to be a wide-ranging inquiry.".

darkspilver

FWIW below is the discussion from two months ago - which includes the Watchtower's Question from Readers from 1990

Also includes the one hour BBC television documentary that was aired in May 2017:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4882693948964864/bbc-programme-re-contaminated-blood-dub-blinkers

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Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

by Crazyguy in

in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

darkspilver

TBH it sounds like the 'standard' letter regarding the annual (?) file audit.

the girl next door does a run-down regarding the implications of the letter at the link below.

the girl next door also posted the Checklist and the five page letter here:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4815771918139392/do-all-congregations-have-destroy-all-documents-related-cases-pedophilia

PS - jp1692 - maybe the clue is in the username: 'Crazyguy'

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The Watchtower Database of Child Molesters.

by WHATSGOINGON in

hi everyone.. this is just a thought, while reading bill bowen's silent lambs website i was interested to find out how long ago the figure of 23,000 molesters was published.. well it was in 2002.. in the spring of 2002, silentlambs was contacted by three different sources who claimed to have connected with people inside the headquarters of the watchtower bible & tract society of new york, located in patterson , new york .

these insiders provided silentlambs contacts with a computer data base number of 23,720 child molesters on file there.

so as the spring of 2002 was just over 15 years ago i wonder how many more have been added to the list ?.

darkspilver

figure of 23,000 molesters was published

For clarity, I think that is suspected / alleged molesters

scratchme1010: I'd be more concerned about why they are keeping a database. What is supposed to be the purpose of that?
WHATSGOINGON: Scratchme1010 I totally agree !! Its very strange.

Well the simple solution then is for WT to not keep a database. Just destroy it and throw it away. End off.

I am sorry you feel like that.

You may not want WT to keep a database - but I do.

Though I understand that great care needs to be made about, especially as I believe it includes just allegations.

The issue though it not about keeping a database, it is about how it is used.

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How do I delete my posts?

by The Doc 58 in

it's been 9 years and it would be nice to get them off the internet.

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darkspilver

Prompted by another poster, I re-checked one of the Doc 58's posts and can see that he did provide a link on amazon.com that features the book he wrote under his name. So, I continue to be puzzled about why the Doc 58 would want his posts from this forum deleted but the book bearing his name on amazon.com on full public display.

haha

kinda like 'forum-cleansing'

rather than 'mind-cleansing'

which happens to remind me of this video...

BTW, what assembly hall is this? - it looks massive - watch from 4:15 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Ffaj-6g8w

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