well i have to give credit where credit is due.
it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.
the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".
UnshackleTheChains - thanks for the Baptist links
I thought the following section was interesting - seeing it set-out as they have:
'Safe To Grow' document
Page 79: When it is known that a person who has been convicted of sexually abusing children or young people is attending your church
BTW - weird, it looks like they actually shut down their Child Safeguarding website last year - http://www.safetogrow.org.uk/ - (see pages 65, 71, 77, 80, 81 and back (last) page of above document)
https://youtu.be/jmolpaclsca.
thanks for the link
FYI - the actual Charity Commission's Report itself is being discussed on the following thread since it was released on Wednesday 26 July 2017 (links are also conveniently provided on the thread to the FULL report so people can read it themselves)
also included in the above linked discussion is how it has been reported in both the local (to the area where this all took place) and national newspapers - both online and in the printed newspaper version.
The BBC Radio 4 report was also flagged up here and is being discussed here:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4906571056283648/_post/5181899129487360
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.
BBC Radio 4 - Sunday 30 July 2017 - 7.10 to 7.55
SUNDAY - "Jehovah's Witness, Trafficking, Arts & Craft Stained Glass"
The Charity Commission have published a critical report into how the Jehovah's Witnesses managed allegations of child sex abuse at the Manchester New Moston congregation. Kathleen Hallisey a lawyer for survivors and Harvey Grenville, Head of Investigations and Enforcement at the Charity Commission discuss the issues with Edward.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08z97zy
(The radio programme is actually called 'Sunday')
Version on youtube:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.
yeah - that's why I said "how the JWs dealt with it" - it's not just the face-to-face meetings but also by the very serious 'conflict-of-interest' issues that where revealed too.
sorry if this has been posted, havnt had much time to look..
It may have been temporarily unavailable, but the Facebook page is still accessible:
I think that's a new 'page'?
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6pvj6k/facebook_shuts_down_exjw_group_for_hate_speech/Also, compare with: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6o6fiz/the_truth_about_jwfacts_facebook_hate_page/
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.
So they're still intending to investigate abuse accusations internally without reporting them to the authorities. What does it take to get through to these people?
In this case that they're commenting on, the perpetrator was known and had been dealt with by the authorities. The main issue that appears to have picked up is how the JWs dealt with it after (the face-to-face JC meetings).
Remember the - reverse - situation happens too:
Courts find alleged perpetrator not guilty - BUT the JW's find guilty and DF.
based on a true crime book entitled "under the bridge," by rebecca godfrey, a film is in the making on the life of reena virk, an ex jehovah's witness, who was murdered in british columbia, canada, by several other females.
should be interesting.
see "witherspoon's type a develops high school murder story of reena virk" at.
Article from Rebecca Godfrey, author of the above book 'Under The Bridge'.
The Unforgettable Story of a Teen Murdered by Her Peers
Vice July 27 2017
Twenty years after Reena Virk’s horrific death, the reporter who knew the teenage girls involved goes deep on a crime that shocked the world.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qvpqa7/the-unforgettable-story-of-a-teen-murdered-by-her-peers
Background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Reena_Virk
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.
BBC Radio 4 - Sunday 30 July 2017 - 7.10 to 7.55
SUNDAY - "Jehovah's Witness, Trafficking, Arts & Craft Stained Glass"
The Charity Commission have published a critical report into how the Jehovah's Witnesses managed allegations of child sex abuse at the Manchester New Moston congregation. Kathleen Hallisey a lawyer for survivors and Harvey Grenville, Head of Investigations and Enforcement at the Charity Commission discuss the issues with Edward.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08z97zy
(The radio programme is actually called 'Sunday')
https://www.facebook.com/tupuebloesmipueblojehova/videos/578539175868967/?hc_ref=arrvbqq6myd5outlusr6zufmvffwsvr_duxl_fdriuhhniiuesiylhi43gybtziknxwthis video gave me cancer..
floridaborn: There is one on Instagram where they have their phones lit up and are waving them during the last song like they are at a concert
This? - https://www.instagram.com/p/BW5-PPdgULy/
I don't think the above video was 'technically' part of the convention programme - because once the song has finished it seems to go into another song? just before the video cuts out?
It's all an (unintended?) consequence of having the lyrics on the screen (no songbook/tablet to hold) so your hands are 'free' and of course the more 'up-beat' music they recently introduced.... this is what happens...
having just watched john cedars latest youtube video i am appalled that jws do not make up part of the investigation into institutions that have failed to protect children from sexual abuse.. i have emailed and begged them to reevaluate their decision.. if anyone else wants to do so, this is the email i used, i don't know if it's the right one, it's on their website.. [email protected].
Oh, there's a petition for that
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Professer_Alexis_Jay_Prof_Alexis_Jay_Investigate_the_Jehovahs_Witnesses/
There are also some other, related petitions, listed here:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6241179127513088/_post/5963517142237184
