Half banana: Fudging the dates, deception, moving the goal posts and grandiose proclamations are all par for the course in a doomsday cult.
See - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5988961619017728/october-1-1914-october-1-2017-103-years
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October 1, 1914 -- October 1, 2017
by Alfred in“october 1, 1914, on taking his place at the breakfast table in the brooklyn bethel dining-room, he in a strong voice denoting conviction announced: “the gentile times have ended!” “ – watchtower july 15, 1950 page 216 paragraph 1. .
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All Donations Received @ KH During Annual Meeting Must Be Sent To The Branch
by thedepressedsoul ini just got word that in all congregations where the annual meeting is being streamed, any donations received that day, even if put in the box for the local hall must be sent to the branch immediately.. there will be an announcement made before the program starts for this arrangement.
so the extra electric needed that day, heat/ac that the congregation has to pay for does not matter.
all money donated that day has to go to the branch..
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The principle was highlighted back in March 2017, the recent letter, from October 2017, was just a reminder with a small update regarding temporarily re-labelling the local congregation contribution boxes to be for the worldwide work.
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Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo
by darkspilver indaniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.
family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.
set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.
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Diogenesister: where did you get the review darkspilver?
Everything I've posted on this thread should be labelled and hyperlinked to the original source.
Generally I've only posted/linked to 'professional' reviews rather than 'personal' ones.
There are also a couple of 'interviews' and other articles posted in this thread that provide some background to the film.
I've posted everything into just the one thread here to keep it all together so it is easier for people to all about it in just one place.
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Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo
by darkspilver indaniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.
family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.
set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.
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FYI Daniel Kokotajlo won the £50k Bursary Award for his film Apostasy - see previous post above
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6224640852623360/_post/5133897383804928
Daniel Kokotajlo, writer-director Apostasy, wins £50k IWC Schaffhausen Filmmaker BursaryBritish Film Institue, Tuesday, October 3, 2017
Stars from the UK’s film and television industries gathered tonight in support of BFI LUMINOUS, the biennial fundraising gala presented in partnership with IWC Schaffhausen. LUMINOUS’ special guest speaker Oscar-winning actor Tilda Swinton was among a host of luminaries who came together to celebrate UK film, raise money to ensure young people from all backgrounds can engage with the medium, and champion new talent and emerging filmmaking voices.
The evening culminated in the award of the coveted IWC Schaffhausen Filmmaker Bursary Award in Association with the BFI to Daniel Kokotajlo, writer/director of Apostasy, one of the UK’s most exciting new filmmaking talents. At £50,000, it is unique and one of the largest prizes for the arts in the UK, offering talent at the beginning of their career the gift of time, allowing them to grow and develop.
The Jury for the IWC Schaffhausen Filmmaker Bursary Award in Association with the BFI commented:
“We were unanimously moved by Daniel’s compelling and extraordinarily powerful debut Apostasy. We were very impressed with his delicate approach and skill at drawing in the audience and creating a subtle but incredibly affecting piece of work. We were also struck by his process – his commitment to research, lengthy workshopping and collaboration with his performers – something we felt that he would be able to develop with the benefit of this Bursary. We are excited to see where Daniel goes next and how this extremely distinctive and exciting new British filmmaking voice evolves.”
Daniel Kokotajlo, writer/director of Apostasy comments:
“Thank you for selecting the film; I come from a place where it would be a dream to win such an award and stand here. I know what it feels like to have very little, I know what it feels like when people are not listening, it’s been a difficult journey for me on Apostasy but once I worked out what I wanted to say then people did start to listen. A big thanks to the BFI and IWC for believing in me and for seeing that I have some talent.”
READ FULL ARTICLE: http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/announcements/daniel-kokotajlo-apostasy-iwc
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Special event this weekend
by TweetieBird inwas talking with a family member today and they said that there is something special going on at the kh this weekend.
any idea what it is?
they said that some kind of broadcast from bethel for everyone..
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Ray Frankz: The "new" thing is that the Special talk that is given near the time of the celebration will be now given by a branch representative or governing body member and then everybody will watch through the screen.
Pardon? The OP is about this weekend Saturday 7 and Sunday 8 October 2017.
The Special Talk - presented as a pre-recorded video - is being held on Sunday 25 March 2018 for most congregations (ie week starting Monday 19 March) - unless you have a circuit assembly for circuit overseer's visit, in which case you'll have the Special talk a week earlier.
I understand most congregations will have a local Branch Committee member give a 'model public talk' (pay attention elders and ministerial servants!!). I do not believe any of the Governing Body will be recording a Special Talk - what is your reference for saying they will be, please?
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Special event this weekend
by TweetieBird inwas talking with a family member today and they said that there is something special going on at the kh this weekend.
any idea what it is?
they said that some kind of broadcast from bethel for everyone..
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They said that some kind of broadcast from Bethel for everyone.
Define "everyone"
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Special event this weekend
by TweetieBird inwas talking with a family member today and they said that there is something special going on at the kh this weekend.
any idea what it is?
they said that some kind of broadcast from bethel for everyone..
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nowwhat?: Try checking out the other posts before asking dumb questions!
I think this is the first one, from last year...
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October 2, 2017 BOE US Re: Contributions Received at the 2017 Annual Meeting
by wifibandit inoctober 2, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: contributions received at the 2017 annual meeting.
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So they went from saying that money that went into boxes marked "Worldwide Work" should go to mother, and money that went into local boxes stayed local, to demanding that ALL boxes be marked "Worldwide Work"!
I think it depends how many steps back you go.
The letter in March 2017 appears to follow the same principle as the most recent October 2017 letter, with the exception of the temporary labelling of the Local box (to local congregation) to become a Worldwide box (sent to WT Bethel)
Was there previous direction regarding contributions during WT broadcast events at KHs?
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October 2, 2017 BOE US Re: Contributions Received at the 2017 Annual Meeting
by wifibandit inoctober 2, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: contributions received at the 2017 annual meeting.
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That's an interesting, but subtle and very specific change to the previous directions the WT have sent to congregations regarding the labelling of the contribution boxes...
You do remember the March 2017 letter??
NOW - add temporary labels over 'Local Congregation Expenses' boxesBoE Letter, October 2, 2017 - Re: Contributions Received at the 2017 Annual Meeting
Please place temporary labels on the contribution boxes so that all boxes are clearly labeled “Worldwide Work.”
PREVIOUSLY - no label changes, just send money in 'Local Congregation Expenses' to Bethel (minus any minor expenses incurred during the actual event)BoE Letter, March 2, 2017 - Re: Broadcast Events Held in Kingdom Halls
8. Donations placed in the box labeled “Worldwide Work” should be forwarded to the branch office using jworg. Donations placed in the box labeled “Local Congregation Expenses” can be used to cover local expenses incurred during the event. Thereafter, any surplus should be forwarded to the branch office as a donation to the worldwide work.
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2017 Memorial Partakers
by NashvilleTele inwhen does the number of memorial partakers get released for 2017. i was wondering if the number will surpass 20k.
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steve2: It's interesting that they once published the Memorial attendance within a month or so of its being held.
The example attendance/partakers I provided above, for a Memorial held on Tuesday 6 April, was printed in the August Kingdom Ministry (although it would have needed to have been printed and distributed to congregations just before the start of August)
Diogenesister: However, darkspilver's chart shows that anointed numbers in the UK decreased at a faster, and notably steady, rate than in the USA
That was what stood out to me.
The percentage decrease in the number of partakers from 1975 to 1993 was:
Worldwide = 17.6% decrease
America = 21.8% decrease
Britain = 63.9% decrease
It was also interesting that American partakers generally accounted for just under half of the worldwide total number.