Posts by darkspilver

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Why Jehovah witnesses don't say, "Bless you" ?

by Issa in

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bless you, that was a big sneeze you let out sister.. sister- ah, what does "bless you" mean?.

oh, it's pagan.

because people bless the soul of the person so they don't escape from their physical bodies.. sister- right, it is difficult to change the little things, but we can please jehovah by staying away from those things.. .... this is a scenario that happened when i accidentally (naturally) said "bless you" to the jw sister.

darkspilver

Issa: Can anyone explain why the JWs don't say bless you, besides being "pagan"?

In the OP scenario: superstition

In other circumstances JWs believe it is OK, and NOT pagan, to say "(God), bless you."

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Facebook Post (Ad) Calgary, CANADA

by tepidpoultry in

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Fascinating, I'm just a lay-person, so this may be completely wrong (and not applicable to specific countries) but it seems that, and correct me again if I'm wrong....

Yes, you can have two Class Actions for the same thing - but both made up of different Plaintiffs.

But then the Defendant can then choose who to deal with which leads to a Class Action Reverse Auction

https://www.overlawyered.com/2005/08/class-actions-the-reverse-auction/

Each Class Action undercuts and reduces the settlement amount/deal in order to gain the advantage which becomes a Race to Judgment

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d8fc537a-9bac-42ec-8598-810f8c2e6052

It's a race as the first Class Action to reach judgment/settlement is, by res judicata, applicable to all Plaintiffs.

In addition, the Defendent can go with the Class Action with the plaintiff/s with the weakest case/s to secure the lowest/best deal via an actual judgment that, again, by res judicata, is then applicable to all Plaintiffs.

TL;DR - it seems that having two Class Actions for the same thing is possible, but this can work out to the Defendants advantage.

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Pale.Emperor Meets A Born Again Christian

by pale.emperor in

of all the religions out there one religion that's always filled me with exasperation was the born again christian belief system.

to make matters worse, the street preachers i see and hear here in liverpool always tend to be crack pot, loud mouths, attention seeking and just plain annoying.. this idea that "im going to heaven, you're going to hell" is enough to make me not want to worship their god even if he did exist.

but today i met two.

darkspilver

pale.emperor: To make matters worse, the street preachers i see and hear here in Liverpool always tend to be crack pot, loud mouths, attention seeking and just plain annoying.

Here's a typical example from Liverpool - gives a reasonable feeling for what it's like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgpNvwhtN70

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Change in CA?

by careful in

having been out for a long time, i'm wondering in what year the change in circuit assemblies took place when they went from two days to just one.

anyone know for sure?.

thanks in advance..

darkspilver

careful: Having been out for a long time

How long is 'a long time'?

The one-day 'Special Assembly Day' was introduced as a replacement for one of the two annual two-day circuit assemblies from September 1987.

Kingdom Ministry, February 1987

Simplification Helps Us to “Make Sure of the More Important Things”
ANNUAL CIRCUIT ASSEMBLY
By means of a letter from the Society, all congregations have learned that, starting September 1987, each circuit will have one circuit assembly a year.
SPECIAL ASSEMBLY DAY
For a number of years now, about half of the circuits in this country have had opportunity to hold a special event each year, featuring a speaker from Brooklyn Bethel. On such occasions a two- or three-hour program has been presented. The Society is adjusting this arrangement so that beginning September 1987, it will be possible for each circuit or section of a circuit to have a special assembly day.

This means that the first of these new one day 'Special Assembly Days' could have taken place on Saturday, September 5, 1987

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JC letter of invitation. Do they always get signed?

by StarTrekAngel in

i was just shown a jc letter from a friend and i noticed that the bottom of it was signed by tree elders.

the letter specifically stated that it was an invitation to a "judicial committee" due to the brother having a marital relationship that was not aligned with bible principles.. i am asking because i remember reading experiences of brothers who demanded their jc be arranged over certified mail with signed letters to which elders refused to do.

since they could not get this done the matter was dropped and no dfing ever happened.

darkspilver

DesirousOfChange: That's adultery.

No, it's not.... I believe in the OP's situation it seems that they are both single people and therefore it would be fornication.

Adultery is consensual sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.

Fornication is consensual sexual intercourse between two people not married to each other. When one of the partners to consensual sexual intercourse is a married person, it may be described as adultery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fornication

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JC letter of invitation. Do they always get signed?

by StarTrekAngel in

i was just shown a jc letter from a friend and i noticed that the bottom of it was signed by tree elders.

the letter specifically stated that it was an invitation to a "judicial committee" due to the brother having a marital relationship that was not aligned with bible principles.. i am asking because i remember reading experiences of brothers who demanded their jc be arranged over certified mail with signed letters to which elders refused to do.

since they could not get this done the matter was dropped and no dfing ever happened.

darkspilver

StarTrekAngel: due to the brother having a marital relationship that was not aligned with bible principles.
StarTrekAngel: If I recall correctly he went to live with this woman without marrying her.

Ah right, solves that question: a marital relationship - ie he was 'living-in-sin', without the marriage.

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a marital relationship

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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?

by Deltawave in

what happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..

darkspilver

Diogenesister: I've always thought the Australian sister (? Barber) so funny when she says

Melba Barry, wife of Lloyd Barry

FWIW her 'the end was so close at that time' comment is at the 6:45 mark

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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?

by Deltawave in

what happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..

darkspilver

pale.emperor: ask and you shall receive! I'll get hunting.

oh cool! thanks

And interesting too in view of the OP's question......that picture is from Melita Jaracz's life story that was published in the 2015 September Watchtower, when she was 88, and five years after her husband Ted had died.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20150915/melita-jaracz-blessing-in-life/

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JC letter of invitation. Do they always get signed?

by StarTrekAngel in

i was just shown a jc letter from a friend and i noticed that the bottom of it was signed by tree elders.

the letter specifically stated that it was an invitation to a "judicial committee" due to the brother having a marital relationship that was not aligned with bible principles.. i am asking because i remember reading experiences of brothers who demanded their jc be arranged over certified mail with signed letters to which elders refused to do.

since they could not get this done the matter was dropped and no dfing ever happened.

darkspilver

It wouldn't be for dating/marrying an 'unbeliever' - that would be a 'marking' matter, NOT a JC, providing the courtship was a 'clean' one.

Therefore the most likely reason would be for entering an 'adulterous marriage'.

Shepherd the Flock of God, page 130

Adulterous Marriage
If a divorced person remarries and he was not Scripturally free to do so - in other words, if adultery and rejection by the innocent mate had not occurred - he has entered into an adulterous marriage. In Jehovah’s eyes, he has married someone while still bound to another. Entering into such a marriage would call for judicial action.
If the disfellowshipped one was eventually reinstated, the elders would be very cautious in extending any special privileges. He could share in the cleaning and repair of the local Kingdom Hall. He may eventually give student talks in the Theocratic Ministry School if his doing so would not disturb others. However, he would not be assigned to help with literature, accounts, magazines, attendants, or similar privileges in the congregation as long as the innocent former mate is alive, unmarried, and has not been guilty of porneia. - w83 3/15 p.29.

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Canada starts fight-back against bloodless surgery?

by darkspilver in

i'm sure orphancrow will be able to fill in the details for us.. front page news with picture all over the canadian globe and mail newspaper today.. with major double-page spread across the whole of pages 8 and 9 in the newspaper's front section.. globe and mail, tuesday 8 august 2017.. the patient, a 70-year-old man with high-risk prostate cancer, was a jehovah’s witness.. his religion was one of the reasons he decided to undergo surgery at st. joseph’s healthcare in hamilton, home to a robot named da vinci whose steady metal hands can remove a prostate with scant risk of the blood transfusions forbidden by the man’s faith.. on a recent afternoon, the patient laid unconscious on an operating table as surgeon bobby shayegan and his team plunged a camera and three robotically controlled surgical instruments through small incisions in his abdomen.. dr. shayegan settled himself in front of a three-dimensional screen, clasped the two joysticks that controlled the tools inside his patient’s pelvis and proceeded to cut, cauterize and stitch until he freed the man’s prostate, pulling it out through one of the original incisions.. there was next to no blood.. “that was routine,” dr. shayegan said afterward, holding the plum-sized gland that he and the robot had removed together.

...in its first real ruling on a robotic surgery, the expert committee that advises ontario on which new health technologies to pay for said there was no good evidence that robot-assisted radical prostatectomy is any better than conventional open surgery when it comes to controlling cancer or preserving urinary and sexual function.. the panel said the robot’s other benefits – patients have smaller incisions, lose less blood, suffer less pain and leave the hospital sooner – were not significant enough to justify spending, on average, an extra $3,224 a case, a figure that does not include the millions that wealthy benefactors have spent buying the machines for canadian hospitals.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/the-fight-for-robots-in-canadas-operatingrooms/article35897282/.

darkspilver

Now it's happening in the UK.....

Robotic-Assisted Surgery - Balancing Evidence and Implementation

Journal of the American Medical Association, Tuesday, October 24, 2017
READ FULL ARTICLE: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2658297

High cost of robot surgery not justified

The Times, Wednesday, October 25, 2017
Patients having robotic cancer surgery do no better than those undergoing conventional keyhole operations.
Doctors have said that companies must either improve the technique or cut the cost because the NHS cannot afford to spend money for little benefit.
The growth of robotic surgery has been largely driven by marketing in the US rather than clinical evidence, researchers say in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
The NHS has 58 surgical robots, which cost more than £1 million each, adding about £1,000 to the cost of each operation. “Surgical technology just seems to creep its way in to clinical practice,” said David Jayne, of St James’s University Hospital in Leeds. “The big thing about robot surgery is it’s dramatically expensive. The NHS was forking out millions of pounds and we had no idea if there was any benefit.”
His trial of 471 patients having rectal cancer surgery found no significant evidence the robots made procedures easier to do. Complication and death rates were the same as for keyhole surgery.
A Stanford study of 24,000 patients found that robot-assisted operations for kidney cancer took longer and there was no difference in complication rates.
READ FULL ARTICLE: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/high-cost-of-robot-surgery-not-justified-380ltvlhq