FWIW I think John Davies and Londo111 are alluding to this?
https://en-gb.facebook.com/notes/lloyd-evans/the-gutter-of-ex-jw-activism/821188714726078/
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Why Jehovah witnesses don't say, "Bless you" ?
by Issa inbless you, that was a big sneeze you let out sister.. sister- ah, what does "bless you" mean?.
oh, it's pagan.
because people bless the soul of the person so they don't escape from their physical bodies.. sister- right, it is difficult to change the little things, but we can please jehovah by staying away from those things.. .... this is a scenario that happened when i accidentally (naturally) said "bless you" to the jw sister.
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Issa: Can anyone explain why the JWs don't say bless you, besides being "pagan"?
In the OP scenario: superstition
In other circumstances JWs believe it is OK, and NOT pagan, to say "(God), bless you."
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Fascinating, I'm just a lay-person, so this may be completely wrong (and not applicable to specific countries) but it seems that, and correct me again if I'm wrong....
Yes, you can have two Class Actions for the same thing - but both made up of different Plaintiffs.
But then the Defendant can then choose who to deal with which leads to a Class Action Reverse Auction
https://www.overlawyered.com/2005/08/class-actions-the-reverse-auction/
Each Class Action undercuts and reduces the settlement amount/deal in order to gain the advantage which becomes a Race to Judgment
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d8fc537a-9bac-42ec-8598-810f8c2e6052
It's a race as the first Class Action to reach judgment/settlement is, by res judicata, applicable to all Plaintiffs.
In addition, the Defendent can go with the Class Action with the plaintiff/s with the weakest case/s to secure the lowest/best deal via an actual judgment that, again, by res judicata, is then applicable to all Plaintiffs.
TL;DR - it seems that having two Class Actions for the same thing is possible, but this can work out to the Defendants advantage.
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Pale.Emperor Meets A Born Again Christian
by pale.emperor inof all the religions out there one religion that's always filled me with exasperation was the born again christian belief system.
to make matters worse, the street preachers i see and hear here in liverpool always tend to be crack pot, loud mouths, attention seeking and just plain annoying.. this idea that "im going to heaven, you're going to hell" is enough to make me not want to worship their god even if he did exist.
but today i met two.
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pale.emperor: To make matters worse, the street preachers i see and hear here in Liverpool always tend to be crack pot, loud mouths, attention seeking and just plain annoying.
Here's a typical example from Liverpool - gives a reasonable feeling for what it's like
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Change in CA?
by careful inhaving been out for a long time, i'm wondering in what year the change in circuit assemblies took place when they went from two days to just one.
anyone know for sure?.
thanks in advance..
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careful: Having been out for a long time
How long is 'a long time'?
The one-day 'Special Assembly Day' was introduced as a replacement for one of the two annual two-day circuit assemblies from September 1987.
Kingdom Ministry, February 1987
Simplification Helps Us to “Make Sure of the More Important Things”
ANNUAL CIRCUIT ASSEMBLY
By means of a letter from the Society, all congregations have learned that, starting September 1987, each circuit will have one circuit assembly a year.
SPECIAL ASSEMBLY DAY
For a number of years now, about half of the circuits in this country have had opportunity to hold a special event each year, featuring a speaker from Brooklyn Bethel. On such occasions a two- or three-hour program has been presented. The Society is adjusting this arrangement so that beginning September 1987, it will be possible for each circuit or section of a circuit to have a special assembly day.
This means that the first of these new one day 'Special Assembly Days' could have taken place on Saturday, September 5, 1987
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JC letter of invitation. Do they always get signed?
by StarTrekAngel ini was just shown a jc letter from a friend and i noticed that the bottom of it was signed by tree elders.
the letter specifically stated that it was an invitation to a "judicial committee" due to the brother having a marital relationship that was not aligned with bible principles.. i am asking because i remember reading experiences of brothers who demanded their jc be arranged over certified mail with signed letters to which elders refused to do.
since they could not get this done the matter was dropped and no dfing ever happened.
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DesirousOfChange: That's adultery.
No, it's not.... I believe in the OP's situation it seems that they are both single people and therefore it would be fornication.
Adultery is consensual sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.
Fornication is consensual sexual intercourse between two people not married to each other. When one of the partners to consensual sexual intercourse is a married person, it may be described as adultery.
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JC letter of invitation. Do they always get signed?
by StarTrekAngel ini was just shown a jc letter from a friend and i noticed that the bottom of it was signed by tree elders.
the letter specifically stated that it was an invitation to a "judicial committee" due to the brother having a marital relationship that was not aligned with bible principles.. i am asking because i remember reading experiences of brothers who demanded their jc be arranged over certified mail with signed letters to which elders refused to do.
since they could not get this done the matter was dropped and no dfing ever happened.
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StarTrekAngel: due to the brother having a marital relationship that was not aligned with bible principles.
StarTrekAngel: If I recall correctly he went to live with this woman without marrying her.
Ah right, solves that question: a marital relationship - ie he was 'living-in-sin', without the marriage.
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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?
by Deltawave inwhat happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..
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Diogenesister: I've always thought the Australian sister (? Barber) so funny when she says
Melba Barry, wife of Lloyd Barry
FWIW her 'the end was so close at that time' comment is at the 6:45 mark
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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?
by Deltawave inwhat happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..
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pale.emperor: ask and you shall receive! I'll get hunting.
oh cool! thanks
And interesting too in view of the OP's question......that picture is from Melita Jaracz's life story that was published in the 2015 September Watchtower, when she was 88, and five years after her husband Ted had died.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20150915/melita-jaracz-blessing-in-life/
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JC letter of invitation. Do they always get signed?
by StarTrekAngel ini was just shown a jc letter from a friend and i noticed that the bottom of it was signed by tree elders.
the letter specifically stated that it was an invitation to a "judicial committee" due to the brother having a marital relationship that was not aligned with bible principles.. i am asking because i remember reading experiences of brothers who demanded their jc be arranged over certified mail with signed letters to which elders refused to do.
since they could not get this done the matter was dropped and no dfing ever happened.
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It wouldn't be for dating/marrying an 'unbeliever' - that would be a 'marking' matter, NOT a JC, providing the courtship was a 'clean' one.
Therefore the most likely reason would be for entering an 'adulterous marriage'.
Shepherd the Flock of God, page 130
Adulterous Marriage
If a divorced person remarries and he was not Scripturally free to do so - in other words, if adultery and rejection by the innocent mate had not occurred - he has entered into an adulterous marriage. In Jehovah’s eyes, he has married someone while still bound to another. Entering into such a marriage would call for judicial action.
If the disfellowshipped one was eventually reinstated, the elders would be very cautious in extending any special privileges. He could share in the cleaning and repair of the local Kingdom Hall. He may eventually give student talks in the Theocratic Ministry School if his doing so would not disturb others. However, he would not be assigned to help with literature, accounts, magazines, attendants, or similar privileges in the congregation as long as the innocent former mate is alive, unmarried, and has not been guilty of porneia. - w83 3/15 p.29.