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  A Question

  by FedUpJW in

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  i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.

  or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.

  i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..

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  Hey neat blue dog

  I think it's more along of the lines of when publishers ask how much they are etc

  the answer is that the cost is covered by their donations to the worldwide work (rather than a donation to local congregation)

  I would have thought even a brief congregation announcement could be in order, if it was felt to be needed.
  

  this would be in contrast to the costs for the printed posters for which publishers may contribute to the local congregation (and not the worldwide work)

  And in real life, I think more people ask about who pays for the actual printed posters rather than the cart....

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR
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  A Question

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.

  or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.

  i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..

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  neat blue dog

  Yes there are fixed costs for everything (somebody's gotta pay for it, right?) The Lit-carts ® cost $40 a piece and you are required to buy them in pairs for $80. There is also a catalog of all kinds of accessories, which may include covers, etc. Not sure about pricing.

  Except now they're provided at no direct charge (see earlier in this thread for post and link to the BoE Letter)

  And, anyway just three months at $15-a-month poster is more than the capital costs, as per my earlier post in this thread.
  

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR
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  A Question

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.

  or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.

  i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..

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  blondie I love you!

  How much are the carts, I heard $40,000 which must be wrong.

  so clean, so simple, and explodes it with an hyperbole - you can trust blondie
  

  Ah! blondie.... the joys of Hebrew poetry!

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR
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  A Question

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.

  or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.

  i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..

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  pale.emperor
  I think a better reason to not donate is that the GB members fly first class on planes (with their wives) at $4,500 a ticket!!

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5722816267681792/branch-visit-yesterday?page=2
  

  respectful_observer
  Take it for what it is (unsubstantiated), but it's my understanding from more than one senior Bethel contact that it's the GB's standard policy to only ever fly Coach/Economy, even to the point of refusing frequent flyer upgrades, lest some lowly J-dub see them comfortably tucked into First as they slog their way back to the cheap seats.

  ah so that's what they call 'an inconvenient truth'
  

  Is Paula the new Johnny the Bethelite or the new Andre?
  

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR
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  A Question

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.

  or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.

  i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..

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  Found it

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/282651/boe-2014-07-15-witnessing-public-places-revision

  BoE Letter July 15, 2014 - Witnessing in public places (note last sentence in para 6)
  

  
  6. Requesting public witnessing equipment: The Congregation Service Committee will determine the equipment to be requested and where it will be stored. Public witnessing equipment can be requested in the same way publications are requested. We are pleased to provide a document entitled Public Witnessing Supplies (S-80) that contains sample pictures and descriptions of standard carts, stands, tables, and kiosks. The equipment will remain the property of the congregation. Care should be taken to request only equipment that will be put to good use by publishers who have been trained in its use. The congregation may be informed that the cost of these carts will be covered by their contributions to the worldwide work.
  
  

  So, no direct cost, nor any suggested cost provided

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR
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  A Question

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.

  or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.

  i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..

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  darkspilver

  The carts, and replacement parts/repair kits/rain covers/etc, along with other public witnessing equipment, are provided to congregations at no cost as part of the standard literature order/delivery, at least here in the UK.

  I do believe that there was a 'suggested donation', which AFAIK was a relatively reasonable amount, when the Trollies where introduced, but this appears to have been dropped now.

  BUT

  it's probably a bit like your computer printer... (cost of actual printer compared to ink cartridges)
  

  The CAPITAL cost of the Carts almost pales into insignificance with the Carts RUNNING costs.
  

  Running costs? Yeah! The large scale (often sticky-back) posters that need printing
  

  https://publicwitnessingsigns.com

  http://jwcartposters.com

  http://esignbuilder.com/jwimprintsstore/

  http://www.wcanfield.co.uk

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR
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  Assembly Hall and Gentleman's Club

  by sp74bb in

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  the spanish exjw forum is burning fire with the massive sale of jw kingdom halls and an assembly hall in spain, each week new listing places appears.

  would jw survive in this country??

  surprisingly the sources have found that a real estate agency named "benialsa" is massively promoting the sales.. http://www.fotocasa.es/inmobiliarias/benialsa-gestion-inmobiliaria-9202753892339.

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  Hey Gorbatchov!

  how's you? I trust you've been checking your old harddrive? yes?

  
  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/282479/history-jw-org-domain

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR
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  No Munich?

  by darkspilver in

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  hey simon.

  you marked the nice attack with a graphic and a few words on the right hand side of the forum - i didn't think you did the same for the recent orlando attack, but i presume you decided to introduce this new box out of a mark of respect going forward following the events in nice.. therefore, i'm wondering why you have appeared not to have done the same following the munich attack?.

  sorry, my bad - i think you only last posted 14 hours ago, so you're unlikely to have had time to do it yet, sorry - the 'lastest topics' feature appears to show you posting just a few minutes ago, but that's because you started the topic and somebody else has just replied to it d'oh!

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  darkspilver

  Yeah, I know, that's kinda the point, previously Simon hasn't acknowledged any AFAIK as publicly as the Nice attack.

  But now he has and has therefore set some kind of precedent.
  

  And therefore I'm just asking what Simon's criteria is? Maybe it was because he has a connection with the town affected? relatives or ancestors? holiday? friends? maybe it was the size?

  I'm just asking, because it can be a problem - you acknowledge one, but not the other - how may that appear to people?
  

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR
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  No Munich?

  by darkspilver in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  hey simon.

  you marked the nice attack with a graphic and a few words on the right hand side of the forum - i didn't think you did the same for the recent orlando attack, but i presume you decided to introduce this new box out of a mark of respect going forward following the events in nice.. therefore, i'm wondering why you have appeared not to have done the same following the munich attack?.

  sorry, my bad - i think you only last posted 14 hours ago, so you're unlikely to have had time to do it yet, sorry - the 'lastest topics' feature appears to show you posting just a few minutes ago, but that's because you started the topic and somebody else has just replied to it d'oh!

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  Hey Simon

  You marked the Nice attack with a graphic and a few words on the right hand side of the forum - I didn't think you did the same for the recent Orlando attack, but I presume you decided to introduce this new box out of a mark of respect going forward following the events in Nice.

  Therefore, I'm wondering why you have appeared not to have done the same following the Munich attack?

  Sorry, my bad - I think you only last posted 14 hours ago, so you're unlikely to have had time to do it yet, sorry - the 'lastest topics' feature appears to show you posting just a few minutes ago, but that's because you started the topic and somebody else has just replied to it d'oh! Sorry.
  

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/images/republique-francaise.png

  
  
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  Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?

  by bohm in

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  this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.

  can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.

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  darkspilver

  millie2

  nowwhat?
  Anything earth shattering would be announced at the annual meeting

  So true...that is where we learned about tight pants and colored socks...

  Thought that those where from Zone Visits that TM3 made, and not the AGM??

  I suspect it is a Coordinator gone rogue - he's seen the videos about hiding and stuff and the armed military police finding them etc, maybe he's aware of some of the fuss surrounding the videos, and therefore feels the need to forewarn his congregation?

  That's all folks!

  DarK SpilveR