telegraph wants $$ to let us read the article.
Maybe their journalists want to be paid for their work?
That would be a novelty
Crisis of conscience anyone?
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DarK SpilveR
i wonder how many j dubs will get pulled down in this.
this is really somethin.. just the tip of the iceberg if you ask me.
here is the link.. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/29/police-find-300-million-images-of-child-abuse-in-major-anti-paed/.
telegraph wants $$ to let us read the article.
Maybe their journalists want to be paid for their work?
That would be a novelty
Crisis of conscience anyone?
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DarK SpilveR
just following the "worst-district-convention-ever" there's a lot of frightened jw's worriedly and eagerly excited about the "great tribulationnnnn-tam-tam-tammmmm" starting.
it's the talk of the town in jw land.. today, my wife is off to the sunday meeting and an after-spiritual-banquet-get-together for the speaker.
i'm staying home for this one.
haha, but surely the biggest shock is she was browsing livingsocial.com
I mean, livingsocial.com, really?!?
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DarK SpilveR
the watchtower november 2016, page 16, par.
"some may feel that they can interpret the bible on their own.
however, jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only* channel for dispensing spiritual food.
This is nothing new, way back when they were always saying and telling their members that crap.
Yes, Village Idiot and Tameria2001 are right....
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DarK SpilveR
Watchtower July 15, 1960, page 439: Staying Awake with the “Faithful and Discreet Slave”
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Paragraph 2: How is this divine will to be made known and brought to the attention of the worthy multitudes of men of good will toward Jehovah? Again the awake world-watchman, the “slave” class, must undertake another world educational campaign following their restoration as witnesses after 1919. Such a global work has now been under way for more than forty years and is reaching its fruitful culmination. The facts show that during this time and up to the present hour the “slave” class has served as God’s sole collective channel for the flow of Biblical truth to men on earth. Just as the early Christian congregation collectively served as the channel of communication from heaven to earth, so in our time. (Eph. 3:10) Abundant spiritual food and amazing details as to the doing of God’s will have been flowing through this unique channel actually as a miraculous evidence of the operation of holy spirit. The present stature of the New World society of Jehovah’s witnesses, numbering nearly a million ministers in 175 lands, gives eloquent testimony that it is not the product of human ingenuity. Rather, it is the product of holy spirit operating theocratically through a tested channel, influencing the lives of dedicated men and women in all walks of life. — Zech. 4:6.
Watchtower October 1, 1967, page 590: Finding Freedom with Jehovah’s Visible Organization
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Paragraph 18: Those in the apostolic organization did not fulfill these requirements for the Christian congregation in just a token way. They viewed their position in Jehovah’s chosen visible channel as sacred and would allow nothing to jeopardize their standing with God. They had no fear of this world. (Matt. 10:26-28) Their only concern was to provide for the safety and well-being of the flock of God. Jesus pointed to this mark of the true visible organization in connection with a detailed prophecy relating to this time of the end He said: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.”—Matt. 24:45-47.
Paragraph 19: Evidences are now conclusive that Jesus Christ was enthroned in heaven in 1914 C.E. and that he accompanied Jehovah to his temple in 1918 C.E., when judgment began with the house of God. (1 Pet. 4:17) After cleansing those belonging to this house who were alive on earth, Jehovah poured out his spirit upon them and assigned them the responsibility of serving as his sole visible channel, through whom alone spiritual instruction was to come. Those who recognize Jehovah’s visible theocratic organization, therefore, must recognize and accept this appointment of the “faithful and discreet slave” and be submissive to it.
here's a conversation i just had with my relative a few minutes ago i'll let you decide.. relative : would you like to read your grandfather the days txt (she passes joe the phone).
joe : sure.
(then proceed to read it to my grandfather and explain it).. after discussing the points joe says to relative.. hey what's the story arnt they printing books any more.. relative : no they arnt necessary any more.. joe : really why is that.. relative : it's all on line.
Relative : no its never been like that.
I wish I could laugh
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DarK SpilveR
Watchtower April 15, 2013, page 13
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130415/help-others-using-gods-word/
Paragraph 6: How could we use the Bible to a fuller extent in our teaching? If you have the privilege of teaching the congregation from the platform, use specific Bible references. Rather than paraphrasing key scriptures or reading them from a computer printout or an electronic device, open the Bible and read from it, and encourage the audience to do the same. Also, take time to apply the verses in a way that helps the audience draw closer to Jehovah. Instead of using complicated illustrations and experiences that merely entertain, use the time to expound on God’s Word.
(yes, italics by Governing Body, not me)
Our Kingdom Ministry September 2009, page 2
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Paragraph 3: Make it a practice to open your Bible and follow along during congregation meetings. When engaging in personal study and in preparation for congregation meetings, look up the cited Scriptural texts and meditate on their application. Many find that reading Bible texts directly from the Bible rather than from a computer monitor or printout makes it easier to locate them later when needed in the ministry.—John 14:26.
Our Kingdom Ministry September 2000, page 3 Question Box
Paragraph 4: When the speaker reads selected scriptures, he does so directly from the Bible, not from a computer-generated printout.
video is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".
warning: your head might explode.
especially past the 5:30 mark.
hey everyone!.
it's been 7 years since i been disfellowshipped and things are amazing!
i still continue to grow as a person.
Thanks, I understand the principle behind it, it's just, well, the kinda - lack of traction - it seems to have,
Maybe it's just a Facebook bubble
https://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles?language=en
http://thedailybanter.com/2016/04/facebook-is-creating-micro-bubbles/
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DarK SpilveR
for those in the uk, note they are discussing jws on r2 (shortly after 1pm) today.
they were asking to hear from those brought up as jws but i guess too late now.you should be able to listen on catch-up afterwards at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio (look for the jeremy vine show), but not sure if you can get it if you're overseas..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07l5fwx
"Jehovah's Witnesses: We talk to a woman whose parents were Jehovah witnesses."
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DarK SpilveR
so--ive bought a house--got the keys yesterday--took a car full of stuff over to it today--i'm upstairs--heard my wife talking to someone downstairs at the doorstep.............. yep--2 dubs--handing our invites to an assembly next month.
but its in a town called bournemouth ( uk )--which means an hours car journey--plus a very expensive ferry crossing.
( i live on an offshore island ).
That photo....is it for real?? It looks really freaky....all those people sitting ramrod straight staring at a big screen
yeah it's for real.... it was for a Memorial Service for Jerry Collins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Collins
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/276477/tributes-to-'larger-than-life'-jerry-collins
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DarK SpilveR
so--ive bought a house--got the keys yesterday--took a car full of stuff over to it today--i'm upstairs--heard my wife talking to someone downstairs at the doorstep.............. yep--2 dubs--handing our invites to an assembly next month.
but its in a town called bournemouth ( uk )--which means an hours car journey--plus a very expensive ferry crossing.
( i live on an offshore island ).
Hey steve2
Late last year a JW.org flyer was stuffed into my letter box inviting me to their annual convention in Dunedin (which usually run in New Zealand months after those in the Northern Hemisphere). I live in the Greater Wellington District.
Dunedin is in the South Island of New Zealand, Wellington the North Island, a distance of about 800 kilometres (approx. 500 miles).
Well seems like WT have listened to you
Friday 30 September to Sunday 2 October 2016
Te Rauparaha Arena
17 Parumoana Street, PORIRUA 5022
http://www.terauparaha-arena.co.nz
https://goo.gl/maps/Fdow4K7gVfx
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DarK SpilveR
i've read in the watchtower, as well as observed personally, that 1% of the congregation gets disfellowshipped every year.
i'm not good at the math but i figure that it's 40% since 1975 (yes i know, they're growing).
i know that quite a few return but still, there must be a large percentage of disfellowshipped jws who will never return.
OK, I think it's from your own calculations, rather than was WT has printed/admitted - the 'Leavers' number is obtained by looking at the annual increase (or decrease) in publisher numbers compared to the number baptized over the same time
For example: Over a Service Year, if the number of publishers reporting increased by 100, and 110 were baptized, that means you are claiming there were 10 leavers
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DarK SpilveR