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SCOTLAND: Livingston Kingdom Hall

by darkspilver in

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i think this deserves it's own thread, so as not to get mixed-up tl;dr - go to the bar charts at the end...picking up on jambon1's comments:.

the one in the op - livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area.

i think three congs share that building now.. nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of livingston and whitburn.

darkspilver

notsurewheretogo - Hated them...everything is about money, possessions etc to them.
jambon1 - Witnesses in the area are hyper-materialistic.

haha - two doors down!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b072wv8z

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SCOTLAND: Livingston Kingdom Hall

by darkspilver in

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friends

i think this deserves it's own thread, so as not to get mixed-up tl;dr - go to the bar charts at the end...picking up on jambon1's comments:.

the one in the op - livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area.

i think three congs share that building now.. nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of livingston and whitburn.

Cool - so Livingston Deans would have been the 'holding' congregation that lead the project, which explains the 2014 income from the suggested per-publisher donations, though it is interesting that the income in 2012 and 2013 was also substantial.

Presumably the 2016 accounts, when submitted, will show the expenses for actually building the complex.

Dedridge and Whitburn's income and expenses can probably be explained by local fund-raising for new KH, with monies sent over to central fund held by the Deans Congregation.

It makes sense for Scotland to have a relatively centrally located multi-auditorium kingdom hall that can hold small assemblies - the documentation mentions a maximum expected attendance for assemblies here being 800 people - and as they're all one-day assemblies now they can be held on a Saturday and not interfere with the local congregation meetings on a Sunday.

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SCOTLAND: Livingston Kingdom Hall

by darkspilver in

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friends

i think this deserves it's own thread, so as not to get mixed-up tl;dr - go to the bar charts at the end...picking up on jambon1's comments:.

the one in the op - livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area.

i think three congs share that building now.. nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of livingston and whitburn.

darkspilver

Hey scratchme1010

What am I missing here? Why it's such a big deal when they build a new KH or sell an old one?

Looking at the bar charts, even allowing for one of the congregations doing the operating expenses, the income/expenses for the three congregtions are fascinatingly contrasting in a multi-million pound way....

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SCOTLAND: Livingston Kingdom Hall

by darkspilver in

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friends

i think this deserves it's own thread, so as not to get mixed-up tl;dr - go to the bar charts at the end...picking up on jambon1's comments:.

the one in the op - livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area.

i think three congs share that building now.. nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of livingston and whitburn.

darkspilver

I think this deserves it's own thread, so as not to get mixed-up

TL;DR - go to the bar charts at the end...

Picking up on jambon1's comments:

The one in the OP - Livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area. I think three Congs share that building now.
Nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of Livingston and Whitburn. Having said that, these aren't desirable areas and they'll not sell for very much money. Also, they've probably spent a great deal on the new assembly hall. One wonders how that cash was raised.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6221836369002496/_post/5165562176995328

Yes, a new Kingdom Hall was recently built on a green field site now called 'Eliburn Campus' in Livingstone, to the west of Edinburgh (it's not showing up yet on Google Earth or StreetView)

https://goo.gl/maps/KaimBMujEj92

It's a three-in-one multi-auditorium used by three congregations with occasional assemblies/special events

Livingston, Deans Congregation at Thursday at 7.00pm and Sunday at 10.30am
Livingston, Dedridge Congregation at Thursday at 7.00pm and Sunday at 10.30am
Whitburn Congregation at Thursday at 7.00pm and Sunday at 10.30am

The Master Plan

The Floor Plan

Now let's talk money....

Livingston Dedridge Congregation
http://www.oscr.org.uk/charities/search-scottish-charity-register/charity-details?number=SC001858

Whitburn Congregation
http://www.oscr.org.uk/charities/search-scottish-charity-register/charity-details?number=SC024124

Livingston Deans Congregation
http://www.oscr.org.uk/charities/search-scottish-charity-register/charity-details?number=SC005223

Interesting eh?...

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UK Kingdom Halls for sale

by darkspilver in

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" and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !

sell !

darkspilver

Hey jambon1 !

The one in the OP - Livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area. I think three Congs share that building now.
Nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of Livingston and Whitburn. Having said that, these aren't desirable areas and they'll not sell for very much money. Also, they've probably spent a great deal on the new assembly hall. One wonders how that cash was raised.

I've replied to this in a new thread

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4762583112351744/scotland-livingston-kingdom-hall

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UK Kingdom Halls for sale

by darkspilver in

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" and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !

sell !

darkspilver

Let's give you another one, that's 'coming soon' to an estate agent's window....

Kingdom Hall, White Hart Lane, Wellington, Somerset TA21 8HN
https://goo.gl/maps/vC38QP7AzRv (it's the blue building on left hand side)

The congregation who meet here - Wellington - are being moved 6.5 miles away to join the Priorswood and Vivary congregations at the Kingdom Hall in Taunton - so there will now be three congregations meeting there

Kingdom Hall, 15-16 Upper High Street, Taunton, Somerset TA1 3PZ
https://goo.gl/maps/rjwUFeMLoZE2

Read me about it in the local newspaper's website: http://www.wellington-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=104860

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UK Kingdom Halls for sale

by darkspilver in

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" and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !

sell !

darkspilver

Hi GoneAwol!

Some more kingdumb halls listed for sale in uk. Wondrous contraction is now taking place....

Actually, I was only listing the Kingdom Halls currently on sale - NOT those that have already been sold, but thanks anyway, you did manage to pick up one that is currently on sale...

Kingdom Hall, rear of Field Street, Penygraig, Rhondda
Web: http://www.barbararees.com/property_detail1.php?id=875
PDF: http://www.barbararees.com/images/pdf_875.pdf
Still on sale

https://propertylink.estatesgazette.com/property-details/6152339-kingdom-hall-28-hallfields-lane-peterborough-pe4-7yh
Kingdom Hall, 28 Hallfields Lane, Peterborough PE4 7YH
This one has been SOLD

http://www.richardbaddeley.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/FOR-SALE-KINGDOM-HALL.pdf
Kingdom Hall, Knowles Road, Llandudno, LL30 2LG
Presumed SOLD - no longer listed on estate agent's website

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/3027385/
Kingdom Hall, 2 Osmond Road, Hove, BN3 1TE
This one has been SOLD

http://www.slideserve.co.uk/kingdom-hall-for-sale-in-eckington-england
Kingdom Hall, 48A High Street, Eckington S21 4DN
Presumed SOLD - no longer listed on estate agent's website

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Kingdom Hall Sell-Offs - 2 Defunct Phrases Now

by The Searcher in

1) when a newly built k.h.

is dedicated, the sheep are told that the building "will be a great witness for jehovah.

the opposite must now be true - when they get rid of it to accumulate cash, they must now be "un-witnessing for jehovah.".

darkspilver

Hey The Searcher!

1) When a newly built K.H. is dedicated, the sheep are told that the building "will be a great witness for Jehovah."

See Watchtower 1 November 2004, pages 19 to 23

"Do You Know the Happiness That Comes From Giving?"
Subheading: Kingdom Halls Promote Growth on page 21
Link to scan

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UK Kingdom Halls for sale

by darkspilver in

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friends

" and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !

sell !

darkspilver

Hey blondie!

Not needed, congregation max will be 150 where possible, and 3 or more congregations in each KH. Makes sense, even with extra wear, theoretically the donations will be more consolidated. Have to drive farther, too bad, many bethelites drive 30 to 50 miles to their congregations near Wallkill and Patterson.

Hmmmm, a bit of strawman reasoning there I think....

Yes, traditionally two congregations using a Kingdom Hall was thought of as 'ideal' use - you had the Tuesday / Thursday evening meetings then on Sunday you had a morning and an afternoon, with a Sunday rotation every couple of years and now WT wants more congregations using each KH.

But comparing the US to the UK??... there are THREE very big differences:

Firstly, in real terms, there are 43% LESS JWs in Britain than the US when compared to population - this means that a US town of 40,000 will have a congregation of 150, but in Britain the congregation would only have 87 publishers.

Secondly, as a whole, the UK is 800% more densely populated than the US - even the whole of England EXCLUDING London, is more densely populated than the WHOLE of the US (including New York State, but excluding New Jersey and Rhode Island) - but this means that people in the UK are MUCH LESS willing to travel.