Posts by darkspilver

As recently as October 7, 1949, the new east window of Stepney Parish Church, the mother church of East London, England, was unveiled by the Earl of Athlone. The photograph of this church window, as published in "The Illustrated London News," October 1, 1949, shows a cross with a young man nailed to it, beardless and with short hair, to represent "Christ crucified, but triumphant."

Thanks - interesting

Artist was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Ray_Easton

The Church is: http://www.stdunstanstepney.com/photos-building.html

(the website wrongly says it is the West Window )

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Bearded students on Ministry school?

by NikL in

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so at last nights ministry school we had 2...yes that's right two that had parts and gave them with beards.. i found it interesting.

i thought the consensus was that you couldn't have any extra privileges if you wore one.. maybe the school is different?.

anyway, anybody else seen this in the u.s.?.

darkspilver

NikL: Maybe the school is different?

Yes, by the very nature of it being a 'school'

Whereas you would need to be 'exemplary' to be used on the 'service meeting' for demonstrations, or to auxiliary pioneer etc

The requirement for the TMS was not as high - though most publishers/elders didn't really realise

Benefit from Schhol Book, page 282

Guidelines for School Overseers
Enrolling Students. Encourage all publishers to enroll in the school. Others who are actively associating with the congregation may enroll if they agree with the teachings of the Bible and their life is in harmony with Christian principles. When someone expresses a desire to enroll, warmly commend him. If the person is not yet a publisher, you as the school overseer should discuss with him the requirements for enrollment in the school, preferably doing so in the presence of the one who is conducting a Bible study with him (or in the presence of a believing parent). These requirements are the same as for a person to become an unbaptized publisher. They are found on pages 97 to 99 of Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry. Keep an up-to-date list of all who are enrolled in the school.

The exception to this would be 'school' parts when presented as part of an Assembly such as at a Circuit Assembly - in this case the 'student's would then need to be exemplary - ie their BoE would be happy for them to auxiliary pioneer.

I do think though that that recent WT article has created a 'bit-of-an-issue' - I don't believe the actual policy has changed though, it's just that the GB has reiterated the old policy in a 'current' WT magazine, so have brought it to the attention of publishers....

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Who keeps the data of the 110,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain?

by sp74bb in

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a new interesting article.... a group of former members denounce "breaches" of the protection law; the congregation emphasizes that it complies with the norms.

spanish: http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html.

english: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html&usg=alkjrhg84wp4qeizkmlijx_wtdrzx-zg9a.

darkspilver

Hi Crazyguy

I think sp74bb just wants the summary judicial details, that the BoE's keep for future reference, to be destroyed - which would mean they would be lost forever, and cases like child abuse can't then be followed up.

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warwick is having an open house! here is your chance people

by nowwhat? in

don't know which saturday it is but it's an open house for the surrounding community.

while on the your tour group , ask tough questions about the organization's policies on pedophiles and shunning.

do this as a concerned citizen and not a "raging apostate" .

darkspilver

Calebs Airplane: - $274,000,000 (Cost of building New Warwick HDQ)

how did you calculate that?

the below doesn't include costs for landscaping (which ain't cheap, especially if you need decent roadways for lorries) and major works on lakes etc etc:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4834097220288512/_post/5183766613983232

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So, any comments from the Memorial?

by NewYork44M in

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perhaps i missed the comments, but i did not see a lot of comments from, or about, the memorial.

it happened last night, right?.

in years past the jwn board was hot with comments.

darkspilver

FYI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PulicvUCtSE

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JW Trolley Caption Competition

by usualusername1 in

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just saw this profile pic in facebook.

made me chuckle.

https://www.facebook.com/eleanorconwayuk/photos/gm.119963091878435/10154964287646233/?type=3&theater.

darkspilver

Yes, it's taken in Bishopsgate, London, which runs along side Liverpool Street Station, looking northwards (ie away from 'the city') - the modern office block/tower in the middle is the RBS headquarters at 250 BIshopsgate

https://goo.gl/maps/5s32C5ZPGLL2

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=2498

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UK Memorial attendances up this year?!

by Isambard Crater in

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my congregation had around 25 more people at the memorial last night than last year, and the two other congregations i have family in all experienced a similar increase in about 25 more people present.

umm, i'm surprised, having thought this year would see a memorial decline again.

and i'm kind of disappointed..

darkspilver

jambon1: A bit similar to how they all dropped in 1976 once it dawned on people that the organisation had led them down the garden path with another false prediction regarding 1975.

Sorry, overall worldwide apparently not...

a very small decrease in 1978 though

1970 = 3,226,168
1971 = 3,453,542
1972 = 3,662,407
1973 = 3,994,924
1974 = 4,550,457
1975 = 4,925,643
1976 = 4,972,571
1977 = 5,107,518
1978 = 5,095,831
1979 = 5,323,766
1980 = 5,726,656

FYI I believe, over the last 80 years, the only years to report an overall worldwide year-on-year decrease in attendance are

1978
1996
1998
2005
2012
2015

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Biased report of JW trial in Russia

by Citizenfour in

i'm pretty sure most of us are keenly following the trial in russia via twitter or perhaps some other means, and are awaiting the results of the trial.

after the weekend, and what i presume to be a memorial break, the hearings resumed today.

i noticed however that unlike previous days, when it finally got to the prosecutor's moment to examine 4 ex-witnesses testimony on extremist behavior, the twitter feed relaying the trial information "suddenly" lost contact.

darkspilver

Actually I just thought that @SimonBotes was tweeting in English a summary of what was being posted in Russian on jw-russia.org??

He doesn't appear to be tweeting anything 'original' including the photos he's tweeting??

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Nightmare on memorial night. This cult really sucks.

by Still Totally ADD in

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this morning i woke up from a good night's sleep to a horrible nightmare.

as soon as i woke up i asked myself when am i going to get this cult out of my head.

as a disclaimer i just want you all to know my wife would never do this because she is a hard fast atheist.

darkspilver

FYI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PTkElalOSU