Posts by darkspilver

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Could we have a topic subject on just watchtower organization news?

by nowwhat? in

for kingdom hall and branch closings, leaked documents and videos, number of baptisms at assemblies, news articles on child abuse and other.

etc.

thank you.

darkspilver

DOUBLE PAGE SPREAD across pages 26 and 27 in today's print version

Usual caveat as per: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5117651812614144/uk-daily-mirror-girl-who-abused-dad-5-years-asked-jws-help-but-got-molested-church-elder-too

Mum raised on council estate made £300million but it destroyed her husband and ruined her marriage

The Sunday Mirror, Sunday 11 June 2017
A millionairess raised on a council estate has told how her fairytale turned to dust when her husband cheated on her – then hid their £300million fortune.
Sarah Pursglove and her partner had unimaginable wealth – a £25million penthouse, a £22million yacht, a private jet, a property empire and a booming online business.
But she says the money “absolutely ruined” her husband Robert Oesterlund, 44.
Sarah grew up in a three-bed semi in North Wales while Robert was the shy son of Finnish Jehovah’s Witnesses. The pair met while she was working as a cruise ship photographer and fell madly in love.
READ MORE: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-raised-council-estate-made-10601626

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Could we have a topic subject on just watchtower organization news?

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for kingdom hall and branch closings, leaked documents and videos, number of baptisms at assemblies, news articles on child abuse and other.

etc.

thank you.

darkspilver

Looks like the National's are picking this story up now...

Jehovah's Witness agrees not to show son religious cartoons because of risk of 'emotional damage'

The Daily Telegraph, Sunday 11 June 2017
A Jehovah's Witness has agreed not to show his son religious cartoons and has been banned from taking the six-year-old to some church events because it could cause him "emotional damage".
READ MORE: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/

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My medal message

by wheelwithinwheel in

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sent the following to my jw friends and contacts.

thought you might enjoy the read!.....

anyone who is willing to have 8 kids deserves a medal!.

darkspilver

The family chose to apply, the Russian authorities did not chose them...they chose them once the family entered into competition for the award and met the qualifications to receive it.

I wonder how many apply - and pass the number of children qualification, BUT NOT the other qualifications?

It would have been very easy for the Russians to NOT have presented the Medal to the family, along with any number of families likewise refused.

The Russians can tell the world (and the appeal court) - yes, we ban the religion, but we 'love' the people, their 'human rights' are not being hindered.

The JWs can say what good parent's this JW family is because the are JWs and are good and shouldn't therefore be banned.

They both know what they are doing and it's a game of brinkmanship.

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My medal message

by wheelwithinwheel in

jw
friends

sent the following to my jw friends and contacts.

thought you might enjoy the read!.....

anyone who is willing to have 8 kids deserves a medal!.

darkspilver

The Russian JW family were awarded their honor and glory as a result of applying for the award, exactly the same way the org got their Telly award.

Don't get bogged down with thinking that having to apply for an award is a bad thing 'in-its-self'

Even the Oscars require that you apply, and fulfil a strict set of criteria - it is not automatic - films need to put forward specific people for each specific Oscar category.

https://submissions.oscars.org

Of course the Oscars have a limited number of Awards to give out - unlike this Russian Family thing or the Telly Awards - but the principle in all is that you need to apply for the award

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Putin presents the Order of Parental Glory to a Russian Jehovah's Witness family

by OrphanCrow in

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http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54643.

presenting the order of parental gloryon the eve of international children’s day, vladimir putin presented the order of parental glory to parents of large families.

the recipients included families from astrakhan and yaroslavl regions, the republics of karelia, buryatia, north ossetia-alania, perm and primorye territories, and khanty-mansi autonomous area – yugra.the order of parental glory was established by a presidential executive order signed in may 2008 and is awarded to parents (or adoptive parents) raising 7 or more children and ensuring due care for their health, education, and physical, spiritual and moral development.

darkspilver

Sort of like the Telly Awards - it is given to those who ask for it.

haha, I wouldn't put it quite like that

there's lots of things you need to apply for, even though you are 'automatically' qualified for them:

https://www.gov.uk/get-birthday-anniversary-message-from-queen

but, yeah, they, or someone else, would have needed to apply.

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Could we have a topic subject on just watchtower organization news?

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for kingdom hall and branch closings, leaked documents and videos, number of baptisms at assemblies, news articles on child abuse and other.

etc.

thank you.

darkspilver

Judge bars Jehovah's Witness from taking son to some religious events

Portsmouth The News, Sunday 11 June 2017
A Jehovah's Witness embroiled in a family court dispute with his estranged wife has been barred from taking his six-year-old son to some religious events by a judge.
District Judge Malcolm Dodds has refused to allow the man to take the little boy to Jehovah's Witness assemblies, annual conventions and memorials.
The judge concluded that there was a risk of the youngster suffering "emotional damage".
He heard that the couple had separated about a year after the man began to study the Jehovah's Witness faith.
The boy now lived with his mother, who did not practise any religion.
READ MORE: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/regional/judge-bars-jehovah-s-witness-from-taking-son-to-some-religious-events-1-8003192

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Putin presents the Order of Parental Glory to a Russian Jehovah's Witness family

by OrphanCrow in

jw
friends

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54643.

presenting the order of parental gloryon the eve of international children’s day, vladimir putin presented the order of parental glory to parents of large families.

the recipients included families from astrakhan and yaroslavl regions, the republics of karelia, buryatia, north ossetia-alania, perm and primorye territories, and khanty-mansi autonomous area – yugra.the order of parental glory was established by a presidential executive order signed in may 2008 and is awarded to parents (or adoptive parents) raising 7 or more children and ensuring due care for their health, education, and physical, spiritual and moral development.

darkspilver

yeah, as I said, seems to be a confusion regarding number of attendees

Besides I understood that you needed SEVEN children minimum for the award, NOT just six

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Could we have a topic subject on just watchtower organization news?

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for kingdom hall and branch closings, leaked documents and videos, number of baptisms at assemblies, news articles on child abuse and other.

etc.

thank you.

darkspilver

Just throwing out some thoughts here.....I think there's a threefold problem going on....

FIRST: There is a seemingly lack of interest in WT 'leaks'? This is perhaps most clearly evidenced by the apparent lack of 'up-votes' that those posts actually get?

A leaked WT letter (admittedly rather boring) gets just ONE 'up-vote' (in 21 hours) - hmmm....

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5132737063157760/_post/4923374318911488

SECOND: There is admittedly a problem of how to control and manage spam - I seem to be limited to posting just one new thread in every 24-hours - that's a DISincentive to post things like the above WT letter in it's own thread (when more people might see it) because what happens if I wanna post something else (that I think is more important or interesting?) in it's own thread within 24 hours? I can't - so I don't post the first thread.

THIRD: When something is of interest, it gets 'repeat-posted' by other people here (and yes, some is to be expected) but when the same thing gets posted as new threads SIX times, well, ok, that's worst case, but still - it shows that people aren't really actually reading the forum.... therefore why post in the first case.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4829893353275392/us-news-article-about-low-jw-education-causing-problems-life-interesting

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Putin presents the Order of Parental Glory to a Russian Jehovah's Witness family

by OrphanCrow in

jw
friends

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54643.

presenting the order of parental gloryon the eve of international children’s day, vladimir putin presented the order of parental glory to parents of large families.

the recipients included families from astrakhan and yaroslavl regions, the republics of karelia, buryatia, north ossetia-alania, perm and primorye territories, and khanty-mansi autonomous area – yugra.the order of parental glory was established by a presidential executive order signed in may 2008 and is awarded to parents (or adoptive parents) raising 7 or more children and ensuring due care for their health, education, and physical, spiritual and moral development.

darkspilver

no worries - I think there was perhaps confusion because six attended

As per jw-russia.org (via Google translate)

May 31, 2017 in Moscow, at a meeting in the Kremlin, the President of the country handed Valery and Tatiana Novik, Jehovah's Witnesses from Karelia, the Order of Parental Glory. Six of the eight children of Novikov also attended the award ceremony.

https://jw-russia.org/news/17060606-176.html

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Putin presents the Order of Parental Glory to a Russian Jehovah's Witness family

by OrphanCrow in

jw
friends

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54643.

presenting the order of parental gloryon the eve of international children’s day, vladimir putin presented the order of parental glory to parents of large families.

the recipients included families from astrakhan and yaroslavl regions, the republics of karelia, buryatia, north ossetia-alania, perm and primorye territories, and khanty-mansi autonomous area – yugra.the order of parental glory was established by a presidential executive order signed in may 2008 and is awarded to parents (or adoptive parents) raising 7 or more children and ensuring due care for their health, education, and physical, spiritual and moral development.

darkspilver

Which is another thing - why does the Russian website reveal that there are 8 children in the Novik family yet the org press releases only acknowledge 6 children?

FAKE

The news item on jw.org states:

NEW YORK—On May 31, 2017, Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded the Order of “Parental Glory” to Valeriy and Tatiana Novik, Jehovah’s Witnesses from Karelia, who raised eight children, during a ceremony in Moscow at the Kremlin.

https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/president-putin-gives-parenting-award-to-jehovahs-witnesses/